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BBQ Q&A - Brisket
Posted on 6/7/18 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 6/7/18 at 5:59 pm
Let's talk about the big fella of bbq, Brisket. I feel like this is one that we'll have the most activity on.
A lot of people consider brisket to be the hardest to cook, most intimidating, very expensive, and a pain in the arse to deal with. BUT when it's done right.....man it's worth it.
Here's a basic recipe that I feel will definitely help some of the newer guys. I'm not saying that it's perfect or the best, but I think it turns out a pretty good brisket. Adapt as you feel necessary. Realize that I'm speaking to beginners through intermediate bbq cooks here for this recipe.
Brisket selection:
12#-15# usda prime whole packer (whole untrimmed brisket). I picked a prime for a couple reasons. It's much more forgiving than any lower grade. As far as price, we're talking maybe a 10% difference in price from a choice. If you're in the practicing stage, and already planning to spend $40-$60 on one, go with something that if you do kinda mess it up....it'll still be better than a select or choice.
Trimming:
I tend to trim aggressively, so trim however you feel comfortable. I square the long sides and remove the gray looking meat, remove all the fat covering the deckle (point) muscle, and most of the 2 side fat pockets. I leave about 1/4"-1/2" of fat on the flat. The point has plenty intramuscular fat, so there's no real need to have the fat cap covering it. This allows for more rub coverage and bark for burnt ends if you wanted to make those.
Rub:
I like to apply this the night before cooking. Really simple here. 1.5-1 black pepper to salt. I like 3/4 part of restaurant grind black pepper, 3/4 part coarse black pepper, and 1 part coarse kosher salt. Apply a very generous coat of rub all over the brisket. Using a cheese shaker helps with even coverage. Here's something else if you have the space. Leave it panned and uncovered in your refrigerator or ice chest overnight. I think it helps with adhering your rub.
Cooking:
I love dry heat for brisket. So I'm setting up either my uds with a perforated deflector, ole hickory cto, or wsm with no water pan and using a perforated deflector in it's place. I use B&B hickory lump with hickory and oak wood chunks, place the brisket on these types of smokers fat side down, and I'm cooking at 275* the whole time. Some people like to mop, baste, spray, or do nothing during the cook. Since we're keeping it simple, spray a mist of plain water every hour or so that you're smoking. This helps keep your edges from drying out, smoke adheres better to a moist surface, and it can help with the smoke ring a little. Once you reach the stall (around 150*-170* IT for you temperature guys), this is where it becomes a debatable decision.....wrap or wait through the stall unwrapped. I personally like to wrap in butcher paper. You can wrap in foil or in a foil covered pan. From here it becomes a waiting game. In my opinion, brisket is truly done right when it probes very easily, like butter. If you care to temp it, this can be anywhere as low as 190* IT to as high as 215* IT. It's very important to remove it from the heat as soon as it probes like that, because you can overcook it by taking it a little farther than that. If you wrapped, vent it to stop it from cooking any more.
Rest and Slice:
You can rest it as little or as long as you like in a cambro, dry ice chest, or on your counter top. I like to separate the two muscles, and slice them across the grain.
I know this is a little long winded, but I had more time on this one. Hopefully it helps some of you. Feel free to offer your cooking processes, suggestions, tips, and any questions.
A lot of people consider brisket to be the hardest to cook, most intimidating, very expensive, and a pain in the arse to deal with. BUT when it's done right.....man it's worth it.
Here's a basic recipe that I feel will definitely help some of the newer guys. I'm not saying that it's perfect or the best, but I think it turns out a pretty good brisket. Adapt as you feel necessary. Realize that I'm speaking to beginners through intermediate bbq cooks here for this recipe.
Brisket selection:
12#-15# usda prime whole packer (whole untrimmed brisket). I picked a prime for a couple reasons. It's much more forgiving than any lower grade. As far as price, we're talking maybe a 10% difference in price from a choice. If you're in the practicing stage, and already planning to spend $40-$60 on one, go with something that if you do kinda mess it up....it'll still be better than a select or choice.
Trimming:
I tend to trim aggressively, so trim however you feel comfortable. I square the long sides and remove the gray looking meat, remove all the fat covering the deckle (point) muscle, and most of the 2 side fat pockets. I leave about 1/4"-1/2" of fat on the flat. The point has plenty intramuscular fat, so there's no real need to have the fat cap covering it. This allows for more rub coverage and bark for burnt ends if you wanted to make those.
Rub:
I like to apply this the night before cooking. Really simple here. 1.5-1 black pepper to salt. I like 3/4 part of restaurant grind black pepper, 3/4 part coarse black pepper, and 1 part coarse kosher salt. Apply a very generous coat of rub all over the brisket. Using a cheese shaker helps with even coverage. Here's something else if you have the space. Leave it panned and uncovered in your refrigerator or ice chest overnight. I think it helps with adhering your rub.
Cooking:
I love dry heat for brisket. So I'm setting up either my uds with a perforated deflector, ole hickory cto, or wsm with no water pan and using a perforated deflector in it's place. I use B&B hickory lump with hickory and oak wood chunks, place the brisket on these types of smokers fat side down, and I'm cooking at 275* the whole time. Some people like to mop, baste, spray, or do nothing during the cook. Since we're keeping it simple, spray a mist of plain water every hour or so that you're smoking. This helps keep your edges from drying out, smoke adheres better to a moist surface, and it can help with the smoke ring a little. Once you reach the stall (around 150*-170* IT for you temperature guys), this is where it becomes a debatable decision.....wrap or wait through the stall unwrapped. I personally like to wrap in butcher paper. You can wrap in foil or in a foil covered pan. From here it becomes a waiting game. In my opinion, brisket is truly done right when it probes very easily, like butter. If you care to temp it, this can be anywhere as low as 190* IT to as high as 215* IT. It's very important to remove it from the heat as soon as it probes like that, because you can overcook it by taking it a little farther than that. If you wrapped, vent it to stop it from cooking any more.
Rest and Slice:
You can rest it as little or as long as you like in a cambro, dry ice chest, or on your counter top. I like to separate the two muscles, and slice them across the grain.
I know this is a little long winded, but I had more time on this one. Hopefully it helps some of you. Feel free to offer your cooking processes, suggestions, tips, and any questions.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 6:42 pm to Crawfish From Arabi
Did this one last week. No wrap, oak, salt and pepper,
Prime from Sam’s, 16.89 lbs, 17 hours at 220°
Prime from Sam’s, 16.89 lbs, 17 hours at 220°
Posted on 6/7/18 at 6:47 pm to Crawfish From Arabi
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Here's something else if you have the space. Leave it panned and uncovered in your refrigerator or ice chest overnight. I think it helps with adhering your rub.
Bad idea.
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I love dry heat for brisket
Terrible idea.
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fat side down, and I'm cooking at 275* the whole time
Horrible idea.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 6:47 pm to BRgetthenet
Looks really good. What did you cook it on, and type of charcoal?
Posted on 6/7/18 at 6:50 pm to BRgetthenet
Please explain your thoughts on why these are bad and terrible? Surely there's some merit behind your comments.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 6:58 pm to Crawfish From Arabi
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Surely there's some merit behind your comments.
There’s science, too.
I did that on a ceramic egg smoker offset with the stone.
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Please explain your thoughts on why these are bad and terrible?
I do the opposite of everything you do.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 7:01 pm to BRgetthenet
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There’s science, too.
I'd go back to school.
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I do the opposite of everything you do.
Terrible idea, because you're results would then be opposite as well. :)
This post was edited on 6/7/18 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 6/7/18 at 7:05 pm to Crawfish From Arabi
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I'd go back to school
Well......
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because you’re results would......
Well......
Posted on 6/7/18 at 7:23 pm to BRgetthenet
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BRgetthenet
Sit down, son. He's here to learn you something.
No idea why you would cook a brisket fat side down except to be a contrarian.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 7:27 pm to fightin tigers
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No idea why you would cook a brisket fat side down except to be a contrarian.
Because you always put the fat side towards your heat source, it acts as a barrier/protector for your brisket. The smokers that I listed have their heat source coming from the bottom. Except for the cto. It has fast moving convection air, so it really doesn't matter which side in that one.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 7:36 pm to Crawfish From Arabi
You should change your equipment then. Make the heat even all around and allow the fat to travel through the meat.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 7:37 pm to Crawfish From Arabi
I jive with most everything you said, minus the fat-cap-down notion. If I'm using indirect heat, I want the fat dripping into the meat, not down below. I realize your setups with the Uds and wsm aren't truly "indirect" but I'd still go fat cap up. Just personal preference. Same goes for butts (and you said same yesterday).
I get great results with my method. I'm sure you do too. To each his own. That's the beauty of BBQ
I get great results with my method. I'm sure you do too. To each his own. That's the beauty of BBQ
Posted on 6/7/18 at 7:42 pm to fightin tigers
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fat to travel through the meat.
LMFAO. Biggest myth in bbq. I've been waiting for that rookie comment the last couple days. Trolls gonna troll.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 7:50 pm to Crawfish From Arabi
I didn't realize physics doesn't exist inside your smoker. Carry on.
Also, quit using charcoal and calling it smoking. I have no problem with starting a base with charcoal, but then you should be using nothing but wood until you pull it off the pit. If you are going to use coal just pull the meat after 2 hours and finish it in the oven since you want to cook it at 275.
Also, quit using charcoal and calling it smoking. I have no problem with starting a base with charcoal, but then you should be using nothing but wood until you pull it off the pit. If you are going to use coal just pull the meat after 2 hours and finish it in the oven since you want to cook it at 275.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 7:51 pm to fillmoregandt
Indirect doesn't mean that the hot isn't still passing one side or the other. It has to come in from one place, and exit another. If I were cooking on a traditional offset, I'd have fat cap up. The air passes over the top on those
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:00 pm to Crawfish From Arabi
Post a picture of the last brisket you made.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:13 pm to fightin tigers
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I didn't realize physics doesn't exist inside your smoker
Common sense and a ton of experience does.
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Also, quit using charcoal and calling it smoking.
Have this same conversation with the other 95% of the BBQ world that isn't using a traditional stick burner. Just another idiot hiding behind a screen name and a keyboard. If you really have nothing to add to any of these posts, what are you getting out of this besides making an arse of yourself over the last couple of days?
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:15 pm to fightin tigers
I don’t think y’all boys understand who you talking too.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:20 pm to Crawfish From Arabi
Post a picture of a brisket you made recently. Thanks.
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