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re: Week 11 News, Notes & Stats Thread Playoff Push Edition

Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:17 pm to
Corey Davis and Jay Ajayi and Danny Woodhead. Let's. fricking. Roll.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:24 pm to


This is why I didn’t respond a few weeks ago. How am I going to dispute possibly theories or speculation?

I don’t disagree that Ajayi is the best back they’ve had nor that he could be the only guy in that backfield. I think you’re misinterpreting my stance here

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and yet they opted to trade for Ajayi? Probably nothing to that I reckon


At that price and given their record that was a no brainer deal. It’s not like they gave up a Trent Richardson like haul. Barner n Smallwood are in a different mold than Ajayi and Blount. Clement is kinda of a mix. He made sense for them
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

to produce some elite WR.


No way at all am I saying he will be elite.

I'm just looking for production in the stretch run from a super talented dude.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:32 pm to
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I don’t doubt his ability (I’m starting him this week) but let’s be real...when is the last relevant Titan WR? Derek Mason?

Hell, Nate Washington is like top 12 all-time receiver for the Titans


I don't really think any of that is relevant

Now can Mularkey's offense or a banged up Mariotta support a WR1-2....probably a better question
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:41 pm to
Ahhh didn’t we also use historic #s to say Cam wouldn’t support CMac being PPR relevant ? That was you, no? But hey here we are with him on the verge of him catching 100 balls.

Sometimes it’s best to not strictly rely on data and look at a team’s actions.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:45 pm to
I need Jordan Reed to come back this week please fantasy gods!
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40237 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:50 pm to
Prosise to IR.....for anybody hoping to eventually get something out of him
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:58 pm to
Are you confusing posting points that are worth discussing with endorsing them? I consider all angles, not one side of the coin. I don't create the stats from twitter that we repost. If I endorse them I will make it known, that should be obvious over the years

As for CMC, I own him in two different spots, so Id guess that debunks your theory there. But you did trade him for Ajayi
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:01 pm to
It was you or earl arguing against CMC because Cam doesn’t check down, I get you two confused

Sure did....and if he performs how I believe he can, it’ll prove to have been the correct move. I still own plenty of Mccaffrey
This post was edited on 11/14/17 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278387 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:27 pm to

Im not totally shocked at CMC's success. I had him at 1000 scrimmage yards and said he'd be TD dependent. If he could get into the endzone 6-7 times he'd be a top 20 back. I had him at my RB18. He's at 12 right now with a few guys i had ahead of him getting hurt or their QBs get hurt, and a few busts. When he's had bad yardage games, he's saved them with TDs. That is a blessing in FFB.

and the best thing to happen to CMC was Olsen getting hurt.


and Big J our bet was Lamar Miller vs CMC.

CMC 14.9 PPG
Lamar 13.8 PPG

i'll pretty much concede that bet at this point with the shite show the texans have at QB, but it was damn close.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:31 pm to
Still upset you never took Fitzgerald vs Snead
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278387 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:33 pm to
i dont member that wisey but i expected Snead to play and Fitz's 2nd half collapse like he has last 2 years. Neither looks to happen
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27421 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:36 pm to
Fitz still going strong with Stanton. He's incredible. Love watching that guy work.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158760 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 5:02 pm to
His rushing output has been a disappointment but overall usage is about what I thought it would be, not sure about that Olsen argument as they were feeding him touches before that, even to their own detriment.

Not really about that bet though, overall point being relying on past #s when a large variable changes is a bit lazy and part of the group think that plagues fantasy football analysts. I could be wrong on Ajayi but taking aggressive stances on guys you believe in is what makes this thing fun. I’ll fully own it if wrong
This post was edited on 11/14/17 at 5:03 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278387 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 5:14 pm to
i believe the blurb then was Cam Newton was inaccurate on short passes. I want all the info i can get at my disposal. I will determine what I want to put stock in and what I dont.

They were obviously going to get the ball to CMC whether Cam was inaccurate or not, but it tempered my expectations. I dont think 1 player makes him more accurate all of a sudden. Im not sure that is group think, because just about everyone was high on CMC regardless.

Maybe that was wrong of me, but he is only playing slightly better than i thought he would. So i wasn't far off.

Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158760 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 5:19 pm to
Again not about that bet....just an argument for how a player can change circumstances. Another I mentioned earlier “Sean Payton and Brees spread it around too much to support a WR1” Well sure that was true in the past but the offense never had anyone as talented as he is at WR.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278387 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 5:21 pm to
i see your point and i dont see things like that. i make my own judgments that usually isnt like group think
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72010 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

overall point being relying on past #s when a large variable changes is a bit lazy and part of the group think that plagues fantasy football analysts


Do you really believe that's the case here? I think youre perpetuating this myth based on your bias here and the want for Ajayi to succeed, J.

Like im sure you considered the Eagle RB usage of the past 25 games and whatnot before pulling a trigger on that trade. That's all the stat was intended to do. Smart players can come to their own conclusion after considering all angles, that's the fun, like you said
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158760 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 5:25 pm to
I’m not saying you fall victim to it, just speaking generally.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158760 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 5:32 pm to
I just disagreed with using it as a reason to knock him. My only argument was reading the tea leaves, I believe Ajayi to be a possible RB1 down the stretch. You wrote it off as pure bias because your stats said otherwise. It’s fine to disagree just didn’t care for the demeanor
This post was edited on 11/14/17 at 5:34 pm
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