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re: TDBA: The Franchise, Year 3: Draft In Progress

Posted on 6/10/16 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 2:53 pm to
That dude aint touching Marjanovic per 36 doe.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59899 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 2:58 pm to
Joel will be playing v starters Boban only plays v scrubs...big difference.
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14895 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:08 pm to
Boban per 36 will shite on embiid this year too.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59899 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:10 pm to
He plays v scrubs, I wouldnt trade a second rounder for that due.
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14895 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:12 pm to
His per 36 will always be greater than embiid doe
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59899 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:18 pm to
Nope once Embiid settles into the league say by year 3 he will eclipse those #s.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:36 pm to
Per 36 for centers who may never even play 20 mpg for a season in their career
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59899 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:38 pm to
If embiid was in this year's draft he'd go ahead of the guy you just took with your first pick.
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14895 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:39 pm to
ROUND 1:
1 - TBM - Ben Simmons, SF/PF
2 - MWG - Brandon Ingram, SF
3 - 21JS - Thon Maker, PF/C
4 - Frat
5 - Lou T
6 - PCT
7 - CWill
8 - Papps
9 - Toula
10 - Boom
11 - Papps (via OG$)
12 - Toula (via Thom)
13 - TBM (via knat)
14 - Toula (via Matty)
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14895 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:40 pm to
Jk Still PCT's pick.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:40 pm to
Are we really drafting now?
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74428 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:41 pm to
Yea he would
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:43 pm to
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Are we really drafting now?


Nope...I want to see how the draft shakes out before I consider my picks. Gun to my head, I take Jamal Murry @3 but last week it was Bender. IDK.
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17722 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:43 pm to
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Per 36 for centers who may never even play 20 mpg for a season in their career


One of the reasons I hate the PER 36 stat. This stat usually tries to make a backup player look better than he really is.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74428 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 4:00 pm to
I dont hate it at all, it's actually very useful.

But there are 30 NBA teams and only 11 centers even averaged 30 or minutes per game last season. So their numbers usually never come to fruition as they are in a timeshare or just a straight backup. The position just isnt that valuable anymore

A guy Cole Aldrich has a per 36 of 12/12/3 over 7 NBA seasons. There will never be an opportunity for that guy to even get 20 mpg. Centers are the kings of sexy PER 36


But say grabbing a guy like Kent Bazemore last year before he was gifted the starting role. You knew there was an open spot for him, his per 36 suggested a cat filler, pick the dude up and reap the benefits once he pops. Ive noticed a lot of teams wised up and began adding soon to be FAs with sexy per 36 who may jump into more PT
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27834 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 4:05 pm to
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A guy Cole Aldrich has a per 36 of 12/12/3 over 7 NBA seasons.




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There will never be an opportunity for that guy to even get 20 mpg.


hey now
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74428 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 4:06 pm to
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PortCityTiger24


You getting bored this offseason? Outside of dumping Parsons, Im not sure I see your vision in these trades youve made. Care to enlighten?

I had to go back and check your roster from the playoffs. You were nearly 20 gamees over .500. I feel like your roster is noticeably weaker now.
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17722 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 4:18 pm to
I thought the same thing. That Vucevic/Valanciunas deal was a head scratcher for me.

I don't like how PER can factor in that likely you'd be going against starter competition and playing in crunch time when assholes get tight. It's much different than playing in a backup rotation.
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 4:21 pm
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 4:22 pm to
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You getting bored this offseason? Outside of dumping Parsons, Im not sure I see your vision in these trades youve made.


I thought it was pretty obvious that I am trying to rebuild. And I totally disagree...I am not one to brag about winning or losing trades, but from my perspective I have done well for myself. I've traded older players for younger players with higher upside (in my mind). Maybe part of your problem is that you are looking at the roster now without factoring #3 and #6. I am pretty certain that I am getting two studs to group with McCollum, Randle & Okafor.

The trade I just made, I like Mirotic better than both Evan Turner and Demarre Carrol, and like what I saw from Curry. I think he's a good buy low candidate.

Festus Ezili is going to get paid and will have a bigger role next year. Alex Burks was solid before injury and is at worst a decent bench option.

Teletovic isn't young but he's a flame thrower. Bazemore is a nice piece.

quote:

I had to go back and check your roster from the playoffs. You were nearly 20 gamees over .500. I feel like your roster is noticeably weaker now.


Man I just have to disagree. The 2nd half of the year my team was average and the roster I had after the playoffs was closer to a 10th place team than a 1st place team. I was actually looking at the way you rebuilt your team and was doing something similar. But I def disagree with your assessment of me just trading to trade. I am active yeah but the moves I have made this offseason make sense and are making up for the bad ones I made last year.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 4:27 pm to
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I thought the same thing. That Vucevic/Valanciunas deal was a head scratcher for me.


Why? Okafor damn near put up Vucevic numbers as a rookie. Julius Randle averaged a double-double as a rookie and is going to be used like Draymond is Walton's system. Plus I got the 8th pick, which I used to get the 3rd. Maybe I am just looking at it closer than y'all.

I am pretty sure that Gyno actually said he wanted a return like the one I got (McCollum, Vucevic and Teletovic) when I traded Dray, btw.
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