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Sit Dez against Denver?

Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:07 am
Posted by FGCU Gator
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:07 am
Conventional Denver D wisdom says yes, but I'm having a tough time pulling the trigger. Currently starting:

Hyde against SEA
Anderson against DAL
Green against HOU
OBJ against DET
Dez against DEN

Could replace Dez with any of the following:

Quizz against CHI
Powell against OAK
Rawls against SF
Lee against TEN
Marshall against DET

I'm looking real hard at Quizz considering his volume late last season for the Bucs. Pull the trigger?

0.5 PPR
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74535 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:33 am to
I'd get quizz in there over dez

Powell should get a lot of pass game work as 15 point dogs too
Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
5573 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:39 am to
Same dilemma in my league, standard scoring. Would you start either of these two over Dez?

Tyrell Williams vs Miami
or
Corey Coleman @ BAL
Posted by Tigereye10005
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:46 am to
I think Quizz against CHI is a fine play over Dez this week. But I think it's a pretty close call.

Also
quote:

Tyrell Williams vs Miami
or
Corey Coleman @ BAL

Don't play either of these guys over Dez.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
111465 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:51 am to
I don't like Dez this year, but yeah, dont get crazy and just throw any slappy in your lineup because Dez has a bad matchup.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74535 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:52 am to
Tyrell over dez
Nice target share in a juicy matchup at home
Posted by FGCU Gator
DC
Member since Oct 2008
2870 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:42 am to
I'd go Dez there
Posted by Tigereye10005
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:48 am to
quote:

Tyrell over dez


Man, I don't think this is the right call here. Gyno, you pretty low on Dez it seems?

I know he had an underwhelming game last week, but he still had 9 targets (I believe that led the team) and had 4 end zone targets - one of which would have been an easy TD with a better throw. He's one throw away from having a decent fantasy game last week.

Yes he goes up against a stout defense, but I think he'll get targeted enough to make him a worthwhile play. Don't expect a huge day, but with his talent, it's tough to sit him for Tyrell Williams.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:40 am to
quote:

I'd get quizz in there over dez



this.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
59562 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:41 am to
quote:

Tyrell Williams vs Miami



should eat this week.
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
59562 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:42 am to
quote:

I know he had an underwhelming game last week, but he still had 9 targets (I believe that led the team) and had 4 end zone targets - one of which would have been an easy TD with a better throw. He's one throw away from having a decent fantasy game last week.



Jenkins just owned him and now he is up against Talib and or Harris.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74535 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 12:03 pm to
Dez's track record vs top flight secondaries speaks for itself. He's on the road. I don't want to have to chase volume targets (coming from Dak nonetheless) in hopes of a TD to salvage the start. Why would you want to do that? Maybe if he's my flex.

Rivers is a better QB, at home. Hung 326 w 3 TDs on MIA last season. They are susceptible to the vertical pass - we saw Tyrell go 5-125-1 last season vs MIA.

I wouldn't scoff at Tyrell Williams. I also wouldn't assume dez is matchup proof - I'm just buying the extended data on him. I like dez enough but I am not getting tunnel vision w him
Posted by Tigereye10005
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 12:10 pm to
I don't think he's matchup proof at all. As you said, he's susceptible to bad matchups. I'm not saying just roll him out over anyone, but I'd think of him as a WR2 this week and certainly good enough for a flex play.

I don't necessarily agree that Jenkins owned him last week. He got himself open a few times and had some misthrows - one of those being in the end zone. I know it's not like his QB improved over night, but I don't see misthrown balls continuing too much from Dak.

Williams is an ok play this week too. Maybe it's a bit of a coin flip, but I always take the talent in a coin flip situation. I'd roll Dez if it was between those two.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74535 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 12:18 pm to
In 23 career games facing top-10 pass defenses, Dez Bryant has averaged just 3.5 receptions for 47.8 receiving yards per game.

A lot of that is with Romo.m, too. Large enough sample size for me to roll other options
Posted by Jbrown0521
Member since Sep 2017
1 post
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:39 pm to
I'm trying to decide Dez against Denver or Maclin vs Cleveland
Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
5573 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:44 pm to
Preciate it guys, I'm gonna roll with Tyrell
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74535 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Dez Bryant, Cowboys: Just because it's obvious doesn't mean it's not true. The Broncos allowed a league-low 13 touchdown passes last season and if Bryant doesn't score, he's not going to help you. Since the beginning of last season, Bryant is averaging just 7.1 PPR points in games in which he does not score -- that would have been WR54 last week. Look, he's Dez and he's a big, physical receiver, so he's always a got a chance to score. But against a defense that allowed the fewest receptions, receiving yards and receiving touchdowns last season, his odds of scoring are down. He's just a flex play for me.


Matthew Berry sums up my thoughts pretty well
Posted by ChadJones4Heisman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
2409 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 3:05 pm to
But Gyno, would you start TY Hilton or Corey Coleman in his place with confidence?
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74535 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 3:18 pm to
i couldnt start any of the 3 with confidence. All three carry risk.

Im avoiding Hilton until Luck comes back.

Coleman and Dez are close. This will give the Dez crowd a heart attack but I like Coleman more. He's boom or bust but so is Dez this week. I think Coleman is Kizer's guy
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
59562 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 3:39 pm to
Baltimore is not a great matchup but I'm rolling Coleman.
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