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Sacrificing a Category... is it stupid?
Posted on 4/14/11 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 4/14/11 at 12:25 pm
What do you guys think?
I'm in a 6x6 Roto that uses the 5 classics + QS (stupid as shite) and OPS.
I have 0 saves. My RPs are Matt Thornton, who has been a huge disappointment and Aroldis, who is money in the bank, but may never take the CL role this season...I purposefully waited on draft day through the runs on the closers... but at this point, I'm considering just completely saying frick it... pick up a couple of RPs with high K rates to fill my RP roles and just accept 0 saves.
Terrible idea?
I'm in a 6x6 Roto that uses the 5 classics + QS (stupid as shite) and OPS.
I have 0 saves. My RPs are Matt Thornton, who has been a huge disappointment and Aroldis, who is money in the bank, but may never take the CL role this season...I purposefully waited on draft day through the runs on the closers... but at this point, I'm considering just completely saying frick it... pick up a couple of RPs with high K rates to fill my RP roles and just accept 0 saves.
Terrible idea?
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Posted on 4/14/11 at 12:27 pm to OBUDan
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Sacrificing a Category
my league calls this "punting" a category..
do other leagues say this?
Posted on 4/14/11 at 12:29 pm to OBUDan
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QS (stupid as shite)
QS is way easier to predict then wins
Sacrificing a category in standard 5x5 roto is pretty "stupid". To win, you'll have to be elite in just about all the other categories.
The 2 extra categories might make up for the save defiency, if you drafted for them.
Posted on 4/14/11 at 12:34 pm to Toula
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The 2 extra categories might make up for the save defiency, if you drafted for them.
My team has gotten off to a bit of a slow start (mostly my hitting), but I think have pretty good potential to rebound.
I rank top 3 in Ks, and QS and I'm one win away from being top 3 there. WHIP and ERA a little high, but not ridiculously so... my thought was if I could add either a SP/RP guy that could give me quality Ks or even low ERA/WHIP... that could propel up those categories.
Posted on 4/14/11 at 12:36 pm to chowds4
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my league calls this "punting" a category..
we don't call it that, but i've certainly heard that phrasing used for other things.
Posted on 4/14/11 at 12:40 pm to OBUDan
What Toula said pretty much. In a H2H standard, people do it all the time. In a roto league, not so smart.
Posted on 4/14/11 at 12:51 pm to papz
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In a H2H standard, people do it all the time. In a roto league, not so smart.
This
Posted on 4/14/11 at 12:52 pm to OBUDan
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QS (stupid as shite)
QS >>>> Wins
Posted on 4/14/11 at 12:55 pm to PortCityTiger24
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QS >>>> Wins
both suck.
Posted on 4/14/11 at 12:56 pm to papz
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In a roto league, not so smart.
even if it's 6x6 rather than the standard 5x5?
Posted on 4/14/11 at 1:09 pm to OBUDan
punting a cat is questionable in H2H and a pretty bad idea in roto
Posted on 4/14/11 at 1:12 pm to OBUDan
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both suck.
How so?
Wins is completely unpredictable. The best pitcher in baseball only got wins in 1/3 of his starts, while he got QS in 85%.
So isn't QS a better and accurate way to measure a SPs success
Posted on 4/14/11 at 1:43 pm to Toula
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How so?
Wins is completely unpredictable. The best pitcher in baseball only got wins in 1/3 of his starts, while he got QS in 85%.
So isn't QS a better and accurate way to measure a SPs success
I wish I could convince the retards in my league to see things this way. Last two years the majority has picked Wins over QS. It aggravates me to no end.
Posted on 4/14/11 at 1:45 pm to Toula
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Wins is completely unpredictable.
Agree, and generally has very little to do with how the pitcher actually performs.
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while he got QS in 85%
It's better than wins, I agree. But I still think it's a fairly arbitrary distinction and way of classifying performance...I guess it's one of the better stats accepted in the mainstream, but I still think it's pretty incomplete and unfair to pitchers.
Posted on 4/14/11 at 2:49 pm to OBUDan
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but I still think it's pretty incomplete and unfair to pitchers
How so? 3ER or less & 6IP, think its a pretty accurate assessment of a pitchers performance.
In fact, I don't really consider a 4.50 ERA & 6 IP "quality". May be a little too easy on an SP... Should be 7IP & 2 ER or less
Posted on 4/14/11 at 3:51 pm to Honkus
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Should be 7IP & 2 ER or less
then you wouldnt be able to have a QS stat. pitchers would be getting 10 per season
Posted on 4/14/11 at 4:18 pm to GynoSandberg
For fantasy purposes, sure 6/3 is fine... Just hard to call that quality.
Adequate Start (AS) more appropriate
Adequate Start (AS) more appropriate
This post was edited on 4/14/11 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 4/14/11 at 4:22 pm to Honkus
IMO, 6 IP and less than 3 ER is pretty freakin good quality.
I'd estimate maybe 35% of starts result in a QS.
I'd estimate maybe 35% of starts result in a QS.
Posted on 4/14/11 at 4:23 pm to Toula
Yep.
If you are giving up 3 runs then you are giving your team a great chance to win.
If you are giving up 3 runs then you are giving your team a great chance to win.
Posted on 4/14/11 at 4:28 pm to Toula
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6 IP and less than 3 ER
U mean 3 or less? meh, it's not a bad start, I'd rather 8IP & 4ER (same ERA), but that's not a "quality start"
This post was edited on 4/14/11 at 4:50 pm
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