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How early is too early to draft Mahomes?
Posted on 8/4/19 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 8/4/19 at 5:44 pm
Not really interested in taking him, but in mocks that I’ve done so far, I’ve seen him taken as high as 3rd overall, and I’ve seen him fall all the way to the end of the second.
Same for Gurley. I’ve seen him as high as 5th/6th, and low as the fourth round
Just interested in what y’all think.. PPR leagues if that matters
Same for Gurley. I’ve seen him as high as 5th/6th, and low as the fourth round
Just interested in what y’all think.. PPR leagues if that matters
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 8/4/19 at 5:59 pm to Mr. Hangover
Depends on how points are allocated for QBs in your league. If STD, I wouldn’t touch him until the 3rd or 4th.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 6:14 pm to Mr. Hangover
In a superflex or 2 QB league a first round pick is defensible. Otherwise I would probably take him 3 or 4, but he will probably go 2 or 3.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 6:23 pm to Peazey
One QB league, 4pts for TDs. Standard roster settings
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 8/4/19 at 6:36 pm to Mr. Hangover
I got him yesterday in a 6 pt TD league for $17. Also gets .3 pets for completion and .2 pts per rushing yard
Posted on 8/4/19 at 7:04 pm to Mr. Hangover
In a 6 pt passing TD league....
Posted on 8/4/19 at 7:28 pm to Mr. Hangover
He scored 417 points last season. Next was Saquon at 385. Don’t see why he couldn’t do that again. I don’t have a problem with him in the 1st.
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2018 final fantasy rankings
Posted on 8/4/19 at 7:53 pm to Gtothemoney
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scored 417 points last season. Next was Saquon at 385. Don’t see why he couldn’t do that again. I don’t have a problem with him in the 1st.
That's not the way most people look at it though. It's the difference in the rb/wr you pass up vs the difference in Mahomes to a later qb. I wouldn't think about it before the 3rd round personally but I also don't expect to end up with him on any of my teams.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:23 pm to Gtothemoney
Last years points don’t carry over tho
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:31 pm to Lester Earl
He’ll be a top 3 overall scorer again this year too. He’ll keep you in contention each week by himself. Got a full season in Andy’s offense under his belt. Probably will have close to 50:TDS passing and running.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:34 pm to Mr. Hangover
I'd take a shot in the early third based upon what's left on the board. He's a difference-maker that can keep you in contention any week.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:35 pm to Gtothemoney
50 TDs again? Nah, probably not.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 10:01 pm to Gtothemoney
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Probably will have close to 50:TDS passing and running.
History says no but I guess there’s a small chance he could
Posted on 8/4/19 at 10:18 pm to Lester Earl
If I missed out on kamara, CMC, Barkley, Adams(?), and maybe one or two more I’d seriously consider going with mahomes
Posted on 8/4/19 at 10:40 pm to Mr. Hangover
I don’t see how you could take Mahomes in the first 3-4 rounds unless you play in a 2QB or superflex league.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 1:02 am to Mr. Hangover
In a 6pt passing TD league I think mid-late second is where he should go but idiots will take him round 1.
Someone will even take him in rounds 1 or 2 in a 4 point passing TD league. Don’t be that guy. Mahomes might win you a few weeks you shouldn’t but he’s not going to win you the money in the end
Someone will even take him in rounds 1 or 2 in a 4 point passing TD league. Don’t be that guy. Mahomes might win you a few weeks you shouldn’t but he’s not going to win you the money in the end
This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 1:05 am
Posted on 8/5/19 at 6:47 am to DallasTiger45
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50 TDs again? Nah, probably not.
I understand the analysis of comparing the value of going QB then WR in the back half of the draft as opposed to WR then QB later (no one is considering taking him before the elite RBs), but I just don’t understand why the regression is always assumed when doing that analysis.
So he likely doesn’t throw 50 TDs (although I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if he did that or even more), but we’re still looking at 40+ most likely, and I actually think his yardage numbers go up and INTs go down.
He’s still on an upward trajectory imo, and the situation for the team is as well. With a full year as starter under his belt and another offseason to learn I think he’s going to be even better.
Look at Rodgers from 08 to 09 after his break out. Or Brees after he went for 5000 in 2011 and then basically continued that for the next five years in a row.
I see no reason Mahomes won’t post similar numbers across the board with a highly motivated Tyreek and healthy Kelce and Watkins.
So I think stacking him with another potential elite WR in Rd 2 like AB or Juju is completely valid even if it is outside the box.
Going against conventional chalk is the only thing that makes snake drafts fun to me at this point, and there aren’t too many easier ways to do that than with a QB that is set up like Mahomes is this year imo
This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 6:50 am
Posted on 8/5/19 at 10:47 am to Gtothemoney
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Got a full season in Andy’s offense under his belt.
And defenses also have a year's worth of film to better prepare for him.
Mahomes led the NFL last year in TDs thrown per attempt at 8.6% of his attempts were TDs. Next closest was Russell Wilson at 8.1 (also insanely efficient), then it plummets to 6.9 (Fitzmagic ) and Brees, the most accurate QB of all time at 6.5. The NFL average is somewhere in the 5s.
So, a reasonable person would expect Mahomes to come back down to earth, just a little. If we say he has a 7% TDs/attempt, which would still have him as a top 3 QB in that category for the year most likely, he would have 40 TDs instead of 50. And that's assuming 580 pass attempts, which was the 7th most attempts last year. If they go a little more balanced and his pass attempts come down AND his TD percentage creeps down a bit too, then you're going to be pretty disappointed in his draft cost. If he attempts just 2 less passes/game (34 attempts instead of 36), and his percentage is 7% instead of 8.6%, then he's throwing 38 TDs...still very good, but not nearly those unrealistic numbers people are expecting.
ETA: Also can expect his yards might go down too. He was 2nd last year just over 5,000. That's freaking hard to keep doing, much less improve upon .
So to sum, can he repeat? Yeah, possibly. Is it likely? No.
This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 10:52 am
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