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re: FSBDL 2017 - MWG is your Champion

Posted on 1/27/17 at 8:38 am to
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 8:38 am to
I see your position Marle and if you guys determine Reddfig needs to go back and execute these trades and get legal between each one, I'm sure he can do it.

And him doing that extra work doesn't affect me in the slightest.


I was really just pointing out that Papz' transgression is not even remotely close to what Reddfig did last night.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 8:39 am to
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I know I have always sided with "letter of the law" as far as rule determinations go, but there is an aspect of intent here.


I've always gone with intent of the rule, and the intent of this one was that no one can stash multiple players on the DL during the off-season if they want to make other moves. They have to get down to a basic legal lineup to make add/drops and trades. It wasn't to prevent someone from making multiple trades because their lineup was illegal for a few minutes in between.
Posted by Toula
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 8:40 am to
I don't know who the dude is you proposed to us. If you can include some links and scouting report in the comments, I'll do some reading.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 8:41 am to
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Just an update to yesterday's discussion....
Law has Benintendi at 1, Swanson at 2, and Rosario at 3.
Moncada at 17.


Almost nailed it, especially with the dark horse in Rosario
Posted by reddman
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 8:41 am to
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I don't know who the dude is you proposed to us




Posted by reddman
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 8:46 am to
check g-chat.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 8:50 am to
It's def a neaux
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 8:51 am to
It's not one of the bigger issues in the league but you pretty much just changed the whole rule we had in place.

Again , it's not about the end result and that it is right now. We get that.

Yea maybe everything happened fast. But I'm pretty sure you saw my post that your lineup was not legal cause you responded to it
This post was edited on 1/27/17 at 8:53 am
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:01 am to
let me ask you this Ron. If I'm eyeing a prospect I want in the FA pool, are you ok with me picking him up and putting him on my MLB bench while I wait to make a trade to make room for him?
Posted by reddman
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:01 am to
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But I'm pretty sure you saw my post that your lineup was not legal cause you responded to it


And worked on fixing it immediately. I didn't change any rule, man.
Posted by Toula
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:06 am to
How does the draft work?

Can I draft a guy, get illegal, then trade my extra pieces to make my lineup legit?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:08 am to
What rule should we use from here on out?
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:08 am to
How was Papz penalized?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:10 am to
I think papz lost his draft picks on year?
Posted by MrWiseGuy
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:11 am to
Lost his first rounder
Posted by reddman
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:14 am to
There is a common sense factor involved, IMO. If it's obvious that there is no intent to deceive or take advantage of a situation, I don't see what the big deal is. Had the first trade been the only one made last night, I would have dropped Perdomo or Diaz and picked up Owings.

What would have been worse: how it went down last night, or me letting Happ sit on my major league roster for a month leading up to the draft? One situation is actively working to fix an illegal lineup. The other one is going against the spirit of a rule.


It's one thing to have a situation like I had for all of a few minutes and was actively addressing the situation. It's a totally different thing to have it linger on for days and days waiting for the right situation or trade to go down.
Posted by EarlyBird
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:47 am to
Some of y'all need to lighten up. He made some trades and corrected his lineup quickly. Y'all sit there looking for something to bitch about. Go have a morning beer and find something truly important to get wrapped around the axle over. Redd wasn't trying to deceive anyone and y'all know it. Sometimes when making trades you need to post-adjust your lineup.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:49 am to
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How does the draft work?

Can I draft a guy, get illegal, then trade my extra pieces to make my lineup legit?


You have to announce who you are dropping (and/or shuffling) as a corresponding move to each pick.

Same as any other add/drop would work.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:12 am to
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Some of y'all need to lighten up. He made some trades and corrected his lineup quickly. Y'all sit there looking for something to bitch about. Go have a morning beer and find something truly important to get wrapped around the axle over. Redd wasn't trying to deceive anyone and y'all know it. Sometimes when making trades you need to post-adjust your lineup.



GTFO

so dont say anything when someone makes multiple trades illegally by the letter of the law. got it buddy. way to set the precedent here
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:19 am to
So what is the cut off for someone to have an illegal lineup as long as they are actively working to correcting it? 5min? A few hours? A few days?

Had you actively corrected it you would have just dropped players and made it legal before making the trade bub.

As far as intent, how do you determine that? Like rondo said, there is a grey area. But that grey area didn't exist until you just ran over this rule like it wasn't there. Parameters had been set so that we don't have to dig into what everyone's intent is. Because in the end, you can't tell intent. Or you don't want to get into who's words carry more meaning especially when it comes to more important times of the season
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