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re: For Those Bashing Obamacare

Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
149947 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:01 pm to
I won't talk about ambulances because those are always going to be high costs.

Let's start here. When you buy a tv, do you just walk into the store and pay for it with no questions asked?

Forget emergency care, that's not what I'm talking about.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
22967 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:05 pm to
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It mandated that no one could be turned down for coverage for folks with a pre-existing condition


That in itself is the single biggest reason it was destined to fail.


It's like forcing an car insurance company to give you coverage and pay for damages after you just wrecked your car.

Posted by CajunPhil
Chimes
Member since Aug 2013
778 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:06 pm to
It's not complicated. Obamacare was seen as a solution to a healthcare problem in the United States The problem was that health care cost had risen over three decades because demand had outpaced supply of medical care and facilities. This was largely due to med schools restricting admissions, and we could argue over why they adopted that practice.
The solution was to increase the supply of medicine. Economic theory and empirical data over 200 years supported this obvious approach.

Obama care did the opposite. It added a layer of clerical and administrative costs while doing nothing to increase the supply of medical care and facilities. No additional physicians, no added hospital beds, no added emergency rooms. It reduced the number of hours per day of physician availability for patient treatment because of the documentation requirements. New refgs required that physicians documented for the clerical overseers what they had been doing all along and continued to do. One family practitioner who is a friend told me recently that instead of being able to leave his office at 5pm he was there until 10 every evening doing non productive work. A lady who is part of his medical group has a large practice, and to free her for patient care had to hire five additional clerical assistants to keep up. The quality of care declines as clerical errors on recording test results lead to erroneous interpretations.
This bill is beyond a failure. The stupidity of those who designed it is just incredible. Economically it does the very opposite of what was intended. Less care available at higher cost.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
19569 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:34 pm to
Personally, I do my research beforehand so I know exactly what I mean to purchase. So to answer your question: yes.
Posted by coondaddy21
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
3222 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:44 pm to
If people were choosing to pay the tax rather than buying the insurance, it failed at what it was intended to do. All those people still used the services of health care and still didn't have to pay for it.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
54403 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:47 pm to
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and the rates were exponentially higher than promised.



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