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Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:59 am to Tigahs24Seven
quote:Oh, he won't fail. His intentions are what I question.
I haven't seen Trump fail since he started this...it won't start now.
quote:Isn't that what elected Trump, people tired of the same old shite?
You give out a lot of negativity.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:00 pm to Xenophon
quote:Somebody gets it!
TxTiger is the opposite of negative. He's an eternal optimist. He's just highly skeptical.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:02 pm to TX Tiger
frick off you condescending prick 
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:05 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
quote:My heart wants to agree; my brain is laughing its arse off.
The names of the "Winners and losers" will change with each successive change in administration. TRUMP is appealing because the "winners" will not be either of the typical cast of characters that usually share power successively.
quote:So rich and powerful people just sit on their thumbs and hope that you/me/us vote for what's best for them?
There is no CABAL.
I don't think so.
quote:Yes, and I'm not convinced.
SWIDT?
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:06 pm to lsucoonass
quote:He already is and has been all along. Hell, he was a big contributor to Hillary's previous campaigns.
So does trump become the puppet now?
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:08 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
quote:That is my hope as well.
Usually, the major parties gobble up "outside" candidates in exchange for their backing and help in winning.
In my estimation, TRUMP gobbled up the Republican party, as evidenced by the defection of the many old guard establishment players from his campaign. I hope I am right and he is able to hold on to his principles when dealing with the Congress. There is hope my friend.
Again, my heart is hopeful; my brain is shaking its damn head.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:10 pm to LSURussian
quote:Am I supposed to believe that the establishment media gifted him billions in free advertisement and built him into Rock Star status by mistake?
Why am I not shocked? Trump kicked his way through the ruling establishment while breaking all of the establishments "rules."
Your paranoia knows no limit.
You're not that naive.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:11 pm to TX Tiger
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:11 pm to TX Tiger
quote:
People are celebrating some sort of victory. Unfortunately, nothing is going to change because Trump is as establishment as Hillary.
At some point I hope America wakes up to the realization that the establishment gets its way, whether by the Republican candidate or the Democratic candidate.
When nothing changes under Trump, maybe that happens.
This is the fly in the ointment for me. Because of the era in which I came of age with all of the scandal and corruption in politics, which has always been present throughout our history in some form or fashion, I am cautiously optimistic that things will change for the better but I have just enough conspiracy theorist in me to think maybe this was just Plan B for the elites. They had to do an end run around the populace because the heat was on. Maybe Trump is a puppet just like all of the rest? I guess time will tell. However, I hardly think he could be any worse than what the other side has put forth over the past eight years.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:12 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
quote:It's Politics 101.
I believed that the elite wanted Hillary and hand-picked Trump because he was the only opponent she could beat. What if it was just the opposite
NOBODY is that smart.
quote:Built-in excuse. How convenient.
Now, will he sell out, that is a vlid question.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:15 pm to Lg
quote:As a proud American, you bet your arse I would.
When nothing changes under Trump, maybe that happens.
But when it does, will you be here getting another mouthful of crow?
quote:You don't have to be in politics to play politics in the business world. It's naive to believe that someone isn't politically savvy just because he hasn't held office.
How can you call him establishment when he has only been it politics for 18 months?
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:16 pm to TX Tiger
quote:You will believe whatever your demons inside your brain tell you to believe.
Am I supposed to believe that the establishment media gifted him billions in free advertisement and built him into Rock Star status by mistake?
The media thought they could destroy Trump by giving him all of that free publicity, embarrassing him every time he opened his mouth. They weren't trying to help him get elected. It was the opposite.
quote:I'm not naive. It's called intelligence.
You're not that naive.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:21 pm to TX Tiger
We don't need to wake up. You're the one that was wrong.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:23 pm to genuineLSUtiger
quote:This. It's the second time they've gone to Plan B (IMO) with Hillary. That is fascinating. I haven't stopped smiling since.
maybe this was just Plan B for the elites. They had to do an end run around the populace because the heat was on. Maybe Trump is a puppet just like all of the rest?
quote:He won't be any worse; he just won't be any better. Nothing will change as long as we continue to play the game that those in power have rigged in their favor.
I hardly think he could be any worse than what the other side has put forth over the past eight years.
It's like playing poker with a cheater. The only way the cheater wins is if those around him keep playing.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:27 pm to LSURussian
quote:I disagree. Do you remember how they treated Ron Paul (a real non-establishment candidate)? They demonized him and gave him no opposing voice.
The media thought they could destroy Trump by giving him all of that free publicity, embarrassing him every time he opened his mouth. They weren't trying to help him get elected. It was the opposite.
That's how you crush a candidate. The last thing you do is give them a voice.
The establishment gave Trump a bigger voice than any other candidate in the history of this country. They did just the opposite of what you do to destroy a candidate.
This post was edited on 11/9/16 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:43 pm to TX Tiger
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Then you aren't listening to me or to him. Alex Jones was wrapped around Trump's crotch from the jump.
I couldn't have been more opposed (to either candidate).
TX Tiger, you have my curiosity up. From what well do you draw your political water?
Just a couple of last names will do.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:46 pm to Themole
quote:I only have one: Ron Paul.
TX Tiger, you have my curiosity up. From what well do you draw your political water?
Just a couple of last names will do.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:54 pm to TX Tiger
quote:Not if you believe, as the media did, that Trump would hang himself of they just gave him enough rope.
The establishment gave Trump a bigger voice than any other candidate in the history of this country. They did just the opposite of what you do to destroy a candidate.
I now believe you're not nearly as intelligent as I once thought you might be.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:56 pm to TX Tiger
quote:
Am I supposed to believe that the establishment media gifted him billions in free advertisement and built him into Rock Star status by mistake?
You're not that naive.
Could it be that they vastly underestimated him, took him for a buffoon? He in turn took their free coverage and abuse, all the way through the primaries? I noticed a big drop off as soon as he was in the General.
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