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re: When did all this transfer portal shite start with Covid
Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:54 am to Spelt it rong
Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:54 am to Spelt it rong
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Why are these kids held to a higher standard than the coaches when it comes to commitments? Why do coaches get to move up and better their lives at will, seemingly without penalty?
Because thats a good system for amateur athletic competition.
There is absolutely nothing morally wrong with the setup in theory. It's just that now it's a farm league for professional sports and a huge business, so the people in charge feel bad for the athletes.
There's no reason to feel bad for them, again, in theory, because they freely choose to participate in a century old system. Now that system is blowing itself up, but why not leave the system intact and create a separate one that's just a business?
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:58 am to BornCritic
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Now that system is blowing itself up, but why not leave the system intact and create a separate one that's just a business?
instead of creating 2 systems, why not allow the system to evolve?
seems more practical
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:26 am to Spelt it rong
Name 1 coach that moves as much as basketball players, hell even football players.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:28 am to chew4219
Head coaches? probably can't
but I bet you could find some position coaches that move all the time
but I bet you could find some position coaches that move all the time
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:38 am to Salmon
Position coaches don’t move on as much as players do either. Often times when they do move in it’s not a lateral move, it’s a promotion.
The problem with the transfer portal is it is dirtier than regular recruiting. There should be no blanket transfers allowed. No inter-conference transfers either.
The transfer rules need to be changed.
1 transfer with immediate eligibility if the player is a redshirt, true freshman and redshirt freshman should be allowed to transfer penalty free.
Post graduate transfer regardless of classification, without restrictions to any program.
Any other transfer is required to sit out a year without losing eligibility.
No hardship waivers shall be granted.
The problem with the transfer portal is it is dirtier than regular recruiting. There should be no blanket transfers allowed. No inter-conference transfers either.
The transfer rules need to be changed.
1 transfer with immediate eligibility if the player is a redshirt, true freshman and redshirt freshman should be allowed to transfer penalty free.
Post graduate transfer regardless of classification, without restrictions to any program.
Any other transfer is required to sit out a year without losing eligibility.
No hardship waivers shall be granted.
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 11:40 am
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:38 am to jlovel7
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jlovel7
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The more college football becomes like a mini professional league, the less interested I become in it.
Bye, Felicia
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:41 am to chew4219
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Often times when they do move in it’s not a lateral move, it’s a promotion.
would you not consider a player transferring for more playing time a "promotion" of sorts?
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:48 am to Salmon
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would you not consider a player transferring for more playing time a "promotion" of sorts?
Let me clarify, I’m not against transfers. The current setup and loose rules is bad for the integrity and purpose of collegiate athletics.
I wrote a post above which outlines what I believe should happen.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 12:17 pm to Htowntiger88
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Bye, Felicia
I mean if you look at viewership and attendance numbers I know I’m not alone. That attitude that college football is fine and the fans are the problem is dumb.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 12:22 pm to chew4219
quote:you mean no intra-conference transfers like coaches and schools have blocked????
No inter-conference transfers either.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 12:40 pm to Salmon
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instead of creating 2 systems, why not allow the system to evolve?
seems more practical
Unless it's more revolution than evolution, which I think is the case when you pay players and treat them as free agents.
There is absolutely nothing morally wrong with that system either, it's just not the amateur college athletics that we have had and loved for so long.
I much prefer an explicit minor leagues/major leagues system to using college as the minor leagues. I don't see why anyone (other than all of the financially-interested parties) would be in favor of doing away with the old system, but that's what we are ultimately doing.
Also, I really don't see practicality as an important issue here. We aren't building the railroad. It's just a leisure activity.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 2:17 pm to Gravitiger
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Which are paid by their new employers
Sometimes. That’s somewhat irrelevant regardless
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:13 pm to lsufball19
quote:Virtually always. And it's entirely relevant.
Sometimes. That’s somewhat irrelevant regardless
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:17 pm to zed44
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What happened to commitment on signing day
when successful.coaches can buy out and double salary at nba.com or just from ovc to sec, which happened a few times at Murray St.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:17 pm to Salmon
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would you not consider a player transferring for more playing time a "promotion" of sorts?
if you're transferring for more playing time, you're usually going from the SEC to the Sun Belt, etc., so that would be a demotion.
Of course players go the other way too
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:19 pm to chalmetteowl
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if you're transferring for more playing time, you're usually going from the SEC to the Sun Belt, etc.,
Not really true anymore
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so that would be a demotion.
Not really.
If you are a low level sales manager at Amazon, and you leave to be head of sales at a start up or much smaller company, that’s not a demotion
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:22 pm to Spelt it rong
quote:Guessing you don't know what a buyout is?
Why do coaches get to move up and better their lives at will, seemingly without penalty?
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:22 pm to chalmetteowl
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you're transferring for more playing time, you're usually going from the SEC to the Sun Belt, etc., so that would be a demotion.
Of course players go the
letting players find their niche with one do over after at least one year in college seems right.
people find out they are never starting. or they cant do the academics.
they do jc and have another go at D1 later.
some people confirm they could be drafted by nba.
both happen.
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