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re: Some restaurants embrace putting health care surcharges on diners' checks

Posted on 4/15/19 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 12:02 pm to
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Seeing it seperate versus hidden in the costs may register for some.

Okay. Good point.

My biggest question about this whole issue is does the entire 3% surcharge go towards employee benefits? If the restaurant is collecting for that specific purpose it better be 100% going towards employee benefits and not in their pockets. Is the restaurant opening themselves up to a law suit?
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:43 pm to
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No they are not. What you said makes no sense. How are they guilting their customers in to paying for insurance?


Who is paying for the insurance?

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What the hell? This doesn't make sense either. So you don't patronize businesses that offer their employees health insurance.



If they are going to make it an optional charge, then they should just make it a menu item and see how many people order it. What isn't making sense?
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:27 pm to
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Who is paying for the insurance?


The business is paying. Unless they are list billing you personally for the restaurants employees benefits.

Here is something that will blow your mind. Everytime you buy a product or patronize a business that offers benefits to their employees you are chipping in to help pay for said benefits. At least this restaurant gives you the option to not chip in. So if you eat at this restaurant and your bill is $25.00 you can keep that 75 cents and apply it to your own benefits.

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If they are going to make it an optional charge, then they should just make it a menu item and see how many people order it.


Your not making sense. It's optional. That means you have the choice not to pay the surcharge. In a sense they are doing what you are suggesting.

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What isn't making sense?


You.

Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36903 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:45 pm to
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Your not making sense. It's optional. That means you have the choice not to pay the surcharge. In a sense they are doing what you are suggesting.



They are going to put it on the bill whether you ask for it or not. Making the customer now have to ask for it to be removed. That is not the same as simply making it a menu item. And like I said, how many people would order a side of insurance with their meal? I bet that number would be a lot smaller than what they are getting now. The restaurant is guilting people into ordering the insurance.

Maybe I'm just not explaining it right.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 2:47 pm
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28814 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:00 pm to
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They are going to put it on the bill whether you ask for it or not. Making the customer now have to ask for it to be removed. That is not the same as simply making it a menu item.
You still have the option, Bro. So they are, in a sense, doing what you are suggesting. At least they aren't being sneaky about what they are doing. The whole thing doesn't bother me or make me feel guilty but they should just add it to the cost. I would be more afraid if I was the business that an employee would accuse me of not using the surcharge for their benefits and try and sue me. Which probably will happen to this business eventually. A lot of restaurants don't offer benefits and the servers and or their children end up on medicaid. If this prevents medicaid rolls from growing I am all for it.

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50507 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:04 pm to
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Some restaurants embrace putting health care surcharges on diners' checks


I like this idea, because that gives me the opportunity to subtract that amount from what I would otherwise be tipping.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9646 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:07 pm to
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Most places would just increase their charges without telling the customer.


Not if they are trying to make a political statement and virtue signal. They might as well stick a 3% Orange Man bad surcharge on the the ticket.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36903 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:10 pm to
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At least they aren't being sneaky about what they are doing.


But they kinda are by waiting till the end to show you an added cost.

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they should just add it to the cost


Agreed, because then you would know going into the meal of the final cost.

It's not like it's a large amount anyways, but it is forcing the customer to pay the surcharge or tell the waiter that they aren't interested in paying their insurance. And you don't frick with the people that bring you your food. Like I said, I'd pay it the first time, then likely not go back.

I'm actually surprised only 3% would be enough to cover these benefits. If the government charged a additional 3% sales tax to pay for insurance for all, I bet more people would be for it. Be a lot cheaper than what I'm paying now. I still would not be in favor of it though.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28814 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:54 pm to
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But they kinda are by waiting till the end to show you an added cost.

Ahhhh. You would like them to ask before you get the ticket. Got cha.

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but it is forcing the customer to pay the surcharge or tell the waiter that they aren't interested in paying their insurance. And you don't frick with the people that bring you your food.
Its after you have already been served so your food would be safe. This time.

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I'm actually surprised only 3% would be enough to cover these benefits.


It might but it more than likely doesn't. It would depend on the volume.
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If the government charged a additional 3% sales tax to pay for insurance for all, I bet more people would be for it.
3% wouldn't even come close.
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