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re: Dinwiddie signs extension with Nets
Posted on 12/14/18 at 10:59 am to PelicansBay
Posted on 12/14/18 at 10:59 am to PelicansBay
And now that we have JR and no pick to trade, what do you think we are going to get in return?
If and when Dell moves the pick, it won't be for trash like that. And trash like that won't get you something good in a trade. You would need to trade expirings AND the pick. Wes and JR Smith won't net you anything of value on their own
If and when Dell moves the pick, it won't be for trash like that. And trash like that won't get you something good in a trade. You would need to trade expirings AND the pick. Wes and JR Smith won't net you anything of value on their own
Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:04 am to Crewz
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If and when Dell moves the pick, it won't be for trash like that. And trash like that won't get you something good in a trade. You would need to trade expirings AND the pick. Wes and JR Smith won't net you anything of value on their own
Right which is why when I heard the report we were interested in JR, I assumed we were trying to move Solo + 2019 2nd + 2020 2nd + $$$ to get JR's contract. Then move JR + Wes + 1st or JR + Niko or Randle + 1st for a difference maker.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:06 am to NOFOX
It's not that in depth. JR wants out. Dell calls and says we will give you Solo for him. Cleveland leaks that NOLA is interested in JR to make him look more appealing.
It's all a game at this point in discussions
It's all a game at this point in discussions
Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:09 am to Crewz
You consistently display foolish logic. Then you act like your foolish way is the only way. This whole season haven't you been preaching Harrison Barnes will be the savior? Like Cuban is going to trade him to us anyway. Oh yeah then you talk about getting players like Middleton, which is impossible. You have been talking this kick-the-can-down-the-road and add marginal talent for years. Who would you suggest we get? Try to make that an original idea if that's possible for you.
This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 11:15 am
Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:14 am to Crewz
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Dell calls and says we will give you Solo for him
So it never got beyond that. That is all I was wondering: if there was any serious discussions about adding value plus Solo to try to get JR's contract to aggregate before the deadline.
I assumed that CLE would wait til closer to the deadline to trade him, but then when they leaked interest in him this early, I figured maybe Rich Paul and Cronies might be pushing them enough to move him earlier.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:15 am to PelicansBay
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Oh yeah then you talk about getting players like Middleton, which is impossible.
Middleton is unlikley, but there is deifnitely smoke on that front. Benched, shooting slump, and throws a fit at practice. That sounds a lot like a fractured relationship with Bud.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:21 am to NOFOX
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Middleton is unlikley, but there is deifnitely smoke on that front. Benched, shooting slump, and throws a fit at practice. That sounds a lot like a fractured relationship with Bud.
Lebron is out of the East. Milwaukee has the best player in the East. Milwaukee are contenders that have a legit shot at going to the Finals. But you think they would trade their second best player? And this is something we should bank our future on? That sounds ludicrous at best.
This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 11:25 am
Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:26 am to PelicansBay
Actually, I said that Barnes was the Pels top target. As are other guys that aren't very likely.
That is vastly different from what I would want to do. Personally, I would take the shot on John Wall and if it doesn't work, oh well - I'd be fired anyway and the team would probably move. But who cares - I'd be fired.
So, you wanna blast me for what I'd do - cool. But try to understand the difference.
That is vastly different from what I would want to do. Personally, I would take the shot on John Wall and if it doesn't work, oh well - I'd be fired anyway and the team would probably move. But who cares - I'd be fired.
So, you wanna blast me for what I'd do - cool. But try to understand the difference.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:45 am to Crewz
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So, you wanna blast me for what I'd do - cool. But try to understand the difference.
I blast you because you are a pompous douchebag with a limited point of view. These fools believe everything you say, but you say alot of nothing (except for Walter Lemon Jr). Mostly you stand on your soapbox singing your own praise. It also annoys me how you talk shite about trade ideas and then present them as your original ideas on Twitter. Simply put, I think you're a hack. Does that clear things up for you?
Back to the Pelicans.
We all know the team is one impact SF or PG away from being a legit contender. People act like a AD's fate is sealed; I think he can win here if the team puts the right players around him. The team has a lot of good pieces now, but it's time for an upgrade at PG or SF.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:58 am to Crewz
Do you see Parker or TJ Warren helping at all?
Posted on 12/14/18 at 12:02 pm to NOFOX
This year doesn't matter. Cleveland would not take on 9 million dollars and take up a roster spot for a "second or two"
You can buy a mid 2nd for 1-1.5 mil. Why pay 9 mil for one or two AND take up a roster spot next year?
You can buy a mid 2nd for 1-1.5 mil. Why pay 9 mil for one or two AND take up a roster spot next year?
Posted on 12/14/18 at 12:19 pm to Crewz
These are all futile convos right now. Dell still has his eyes on real guys. Name guys. Needle movers. And if he doesn't get them, he knows there are options that will always be there.
The debate is: Do you wait on a 10% chance of a needle mover or take the sure thing now? The Pesl have 20 or so games between Dec. 15th and the trade deadline. Every game with a Bazemore instead of a Solo is a game you have a better chance of winning. Do you forgo 2-4 wins for a small chance that Dallas plumets and you get Barnes or Middleton keeps feuding with Bud and you can get him?
THATS the debate.
The debate is: Do you wait on a 10% chance of a needle mover or take the sure thing now? The Pesl have 20 or so games between Dec. 15th and the trade deadline. Every game with a Bazemore instead of a Solo is a game you have a better chance of winning. Do you forgo 2-4 wins for a small chance that Dallas plumets and you get Barnes or Middleton keeps feuding with Bud and you can get him?
THATS the debate.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 12:49 pm to Crewz
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The debate is: Do you wait on a 10% chance of a needle mover or take the sure thing now? The Pesl have 20 or so games between Dec. 15th and the trade deadline. Every game with a Bazemore instead of a Solo is a game you have a better chance of winning. Do you forgo 2-4 wins for a small chance that Dallas plumets and you get Barnes or Middleton keeps feuding with Bud and you can get him?
It's comical how you are a Barnes fan now. When he was a free agent you talked plenty of shite about how he was a terrible player and not worth his contract. My, how times change. That's back when you were the guy who lives in Utah that would try to correct grammatical errors when confronted with any logic. Now you're a slang talking hipster. Ok.
I'm not saying that Bazemore is our missing link. I'm saying, it's unwise to bank on being able to make trades for players that are good fits on their current winning teams.
Milwaukee just cleared cap space in the Cavs trade. What could we possibly offer them for Middleton? I hope it's something great, because Middleton would be in demand on the trade market.
Your plan is to wish upon a star for an unavailable player, wait until the trade deadline, and hope our plan B players are still available. I guess the rest of the league will stop and wait for us to do that. Surely a team like Houston wouldn't swoop in on Bazemore while we're waiting and hoping?
This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:16 pm to PelicansBay
Wow. Can people really not read???
I have Already explained it once. Let me try slower.
Barnes....is...not.... Atop...my....list. he....is....atop....the Pels... List
I have Already explained it once. Let me try slower.
Barnes....is...not.... Atop...my....list. he....is....atop....the Pels... List
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:26 pm to Crewz
I kinda wish I could be there with you, PelicansBay, as you went back and read this thread to the part where I say
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Actually, I said that Barnes was the Pels top target. As are other guys that aren't very likely.
That is vastly different from what I would want to do. Personally, I would take the shot on John Wall and if it doesn't work, oh well - I'd be fired anyway and the team would probably move. But who cares - I'd be fired.
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Then, for a second you realize, "Oh, I was wrong. He didn't say he liked Barnes.
But then quickly shifted back to your hatred of me and justified your attack on me for some reason. I could imagine something like, "Well he's still a jerk and a liar. And he's wrong all the time, blah, blah, blah"
To make yourself feel better about your error. But nonetheless, I would have that one second where I could see your face when you realized you were wrong.
That would all be worth it :)
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Actually, I said that Barnes was the Pels top target. As are other guys that aren't very likely.
That is vastly different from what I would want to do. Personally, I would take the shot on John Wall and if it doesn't work, oh well - I'd be fired anyway and the team would probably move. But who cares - I'd be fired.
__________________________
Then, for a second you realize, "Oh, I was wrong. He didn't say he liked Barnes.
But then quickly shifted back to your hatred of me and justified your attack on me for some reason. I could imagine something like, "Well he's still a jerk and a liar. And he's wrong all the time, blah, blah, blah"
To make yourself feel better about your error. But nonetheless, I would have that one second where I could see your face when you realized you were wrong.
That would all be worth it :)
Posted on 12/14/18 at 2:35 pm to Crewz
It's something how you consistantly ignore any questions of merit and badly spin your response. I asked what we could possibly offer for Middleton? No response.
It's funny how I suggested we do a sign-and-trade with Boogie and Porter and everyone talked shite. It's also funny how you ignored the original idea part. I suggested we trade for Wall when y'all were fussing about Porter and Randle (this is in the thread about Rotoworld report of Pels Porter interest). You didn't bring up Wall one time in the thread. The next day you're on Twitter making the exact trade proposal I did on here. Since then you've been like John Wall or bust. Sorry if you seem bogus to me.
It's funny how I suggested we do a sign-and-trade with Boogie and Porter and everyone talked shite. It's also funny how you ignored the original idea part. I suggested we trade for Wall when y'all were fussing about Porter and Randle (this is in the thread about Rotoworld report of Pels Porter interest). You didn't bring up Wall one time in the thread. The next day you're on Twitter making the exact trade proposal I did on here. Since then you've been like John Wall or bust. Sorry if you seem bogus to me.
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Pels interested in Porter per Rotoworld - PelicansBay
on 11/21/18 at 4:36 pm
Porter would be a good fit; it wouldn't surprise me if we traded for John Wall. Something like: Mirotic/Hill/2019 1st for Wall/Morris....
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This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 12/14/18 at 3:29 pm to PelicansBay
*grab a chair with hand through my legs and sit down all cool like; cracks open an ice cold IPA and scrolls PT shite posting thread between Crewz and PelicansBay*
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