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Saints Offensive Players Ranked By PFF
Posted on 2/3/13 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 2/3/13 at 12:41 pm
via Juge
QB - Drew Brees finished the year rated the 4th best quarterback in the league, despite what most of us would deem a down year. That's not quite 1st place, which is what he had last year, but still a very solid showing. Only Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady graded higher. I'm sure you've heard of those guys before.
WR - The best graded receiver was Lance Moore with a 12.8 rating, good for 17th best overall. Devery Henderson rated a woeful 104th out of 105 graded receivers. Joe Morgan rated 43rd and Marques Colston was 46th, both middle of the pack, so it wasn't a good year for the Saints receivers. Colston's blocking rated 103rd out of 105, and funny enough former Saint Robert Meachem had the second worst catching % in the entire league. Guess we don't miss him. I also noticed that the two longest receptions of the year (95 by Vincent Jackson and 88 by Pierre Garcon) both came against the Saints. Finally, Colston tied for the league lead with 3 fumbles. Not too impressive.
HB - After grading out as the 3rd best back in the entire league last year, Pierre Thomas only dropped one spot to 4th with a 16.5 rating. He was only behind Adrian Peterson, C. J. Spiller and Alfred Morris and was just ahead of Marshawn Lynch. That's how efficient his performances continue to be. Darren Sproles also turned in a solid year grading out as 15th best in the NFL at that position. Mark Ingram was graded 32nd out of 59 players, and Chris Ivory didn't qualify. Interestingly Ingram was rated as the 7th worst blocker, suggesting his pass protection still has a ways to go. Sproles, PT and Ingram all three tied for 1st place with no fumbles on the year, which is an unbelievable stat. A pretty solid year for the backs.
FB - After being rated the #2 overall fullback last year and the #1 blocker, Jed Collins fell to #8 overall this year. While he wasn't as good, that's still solid. He was also rated the 7th best blocker out of 25 graded players.
TE - Jimmy Graham was second overall last year but no such luck this year. He still ranked 10th out of 62, though, which is higher than I would have expected. Most of that is thanks to a huge improvement in the blocking scores from last year. He led all tight ends with dropped pass (15) and the next had five less. David Thomas graded 47th out of 62 and didn't contribute much positive.
T - Once again PFF agreed with me that Jermon Bushrod's trip to the Pro Bowl was not justified, as he came in with a rating of 44th best out of 80 players graded. Zach Strief ranked 49th though he played through injury most of the year which can explain that. After being ranked 15th and 8th last year, the drop off is significant and it's fair to say this was a poor year for Saints' edge blocking.
G - This was a solid showing as Ben Grubbs came in 7th overall and Jahri Evans came in 8th. They were both within fractions of a point from each other. That's out of 81 qualified graded players. I think it's safe to say the interior of the line carried the Saints' blocking all year long. Both players were balanced throughout with positive grades in each aspect, with Jahri Evans being rated as the 4th best pass blocker all year. He was one of twelve guards to not yield a sack all season. Evans was also rated as the #1 screen pass blocker in the entire league.
C - Shockingly, Brian de la Puente fared far better than I could have ever imagined. Indeed, he was 2nd overall in the entire league out of 36 centers. Only John Sullivan of the Vikings was better. Former Saints Jonathan Goodwin and Jeff Faine ranked 10th and dead last at 36, respectively. BDLP was solid in all areas which led to his high grade, but most impressive was that he ranked #1 in screen pass blocking.
The drop off the Saints had from the best offense in history was expected, it was going to be almost impossible to replicate that and without Sean Payton it was even tougher. I think mostly to blame is the poor performance of the receivers and tackles. Elsewhere, the Saints are still getting fantastic production out of their interior blocking, their backs, and their quarterback. Jimmy Graham needs to rebound from the slump he had this year but I see the Saints bouncing back. Still, the receiver and tackle play is a bit of a concern. Otherwise, the offense is a well oiled machine that continues to perform at a high level. With a couplesmall tweaks next year they should be still very strong. I'd like to see speed at receiver, and better depth at both tackle and tight end.
QB - Drew Brees finished the year rated the 4th best quarterback in the league, despite what most of us would deem a down year. That's not quite 1st place, which is what he had last year, but still a very solid showing. Only Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady graded higher. I'm sure you've heard of those guys before.
WR - The best graded receiver was Lance Moore with a 12.8 rating, good for 17th best overall. Devery Henderson rated a woeful 104th out of 105 graded receivers. Joe Morgan rated 43rd and Marques Colston was 46th, both middle of the pack, so it wasn't a good year for the Saints receivers. Colston's blocking rated 103rd out of 105, and funny enough former Saint Robert Meachem had the second worst catching % in the entire league. Guess we don't miss him. I also noticed that the two longest receptions of the year (95 by Vincent Jackson and 88 by Pierre Garcon) both came against the Saints. Finally, Colston tied for the league lead with 3 fumbles. Not too impressive.
HB - After grading out as the 3rd best back in the entire league last year, Pierre Thomas only dropped one spot to 4th with a 16.5 rating. He was only behind Adrian Peterson, C. J. Spiller and Alfred Morris and was just ahead of Marshawn Lynch. That's how efficient his performances continue to be. Darren Sproles also turned in a solid year grading out as 15th best in the NFL at that position. Mark Ingram was graded 32nd out of 59 players, and Chris Ivory didn't qualify. Interestingly Ingram was rated as the 7th worst blocker, suggesting his pass protection still has a ways to go. Sproles, PT and Ingram all three tied for 1st place with no fumbles on the year, which is an unbelievable stat. A pretty solid year for the backs.
FB - After being rated the #2 overall fullback last year and the #1 blocker, Jed Collins fell to #8 overall this year. While he wasn't as good, that's still solid. He was also rated the 7th best blocker out of 25 graded players.
TE - Jimmy Graham was second overall last year but no such luck this year. He still ranked 10th out of 62, though, which is higher than I would have expected. Most of that is thanks to a huge improvement in the blocking scores from last year. He led all tight ends with dropped pass (15) and the next had five less. David Thomas graded 47th out of 62 and didn't contribute much positive.
T - Once again PFF agreed with me that Jermon Bushrod's trip to the Pro Bowl was not justified, as he came in with a rating of 44th best out of 80 players graded. Zach Strief ranked 49th though he played through injury most of the year which can explain that. After being ranked 15th and 8th last year, the drop off is significant and it's fair to say this was a poor year for Saints' edge blocking.
G - This was a solid showing as Ben Grubbs came in 7th overall and Jahri Evans came in 8th. They were both within fractions of a point from each other. That's out of 81 qualified graded players. I think it's safe to say the interior of the line carried the Saints' blocking all year long. Both players were balanced throughout with positive grades in each aspect, with Jahri Evans being rated as the 4th best pass blocker all year. He was one of twelve guards to not yield a sack all season. Evans was also rated as the #1 screen pass blocker in the entire league.
C - Shockingly, Brian de la Puente fared far better than I could have ever imagined. Indeed, he was 2nd overall in the entire league out of 36 centers. Only John Sullivan of the Vikings was better. Former Saints Jonathan Goodwin and Jeff Faine ranked 10th and dead last at 36, respectively. BDLP was solid in all areas which led to his high grade, but most impressive was that he ranked #1 in screen pass blocking.
The drop off the Saints had from the best offense in history was expected, it was going to be almost impossible to replicate that and without Sean Payton it was even tougher. I think mostly to blame is the poor performance of the receivers and tackles. Elsewhere, the Saints are still getting fantastic production out of their interior blocking, their backs, and their quarterback. Jimmy Graham needs to rebound from the slump he had this year but I see the Saints bouncing back. Still, the receiver and tackle play is a bit of a concern. Otherwise, the offense is a well oiled machine that continues to perform at a high level. With a couplesmall tweaks next year they should be still very strong. I'd like to see speed at receiver, and better depth at both tackle and tight end.
Posted on 2/3/13 at 12:59 pm to blueslover
I'm satisfied with everybody on offense except the tackles and receivers.
Would like to address both but tackle is likely the only position we can/will try to improve on O
Too many holes on D that need to be addressed. Receiver is never helped through free agency and I can't see them using an early pick on one
Would like to address both but tackle is likely the only position we can/will try to improve on O
Too many holes on D that need to be addressed. Receiver is never helped through free agency and I can't see them using an early pick on one
Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:06 pm to blueslover
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Jermon Bushrod came in with a rating of 44th best out of 80 players graded.
Very not good in a bad way considering its the biggest contract year he will ever have.
WR's rankings don't surprise most I would think Blu. Coverage is always tight because they are not quick on the breaks. Lance would be the exception. 17th is awesome.
I like Marcel Jones at RT next year. Early predict
Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:09 pm to goatmilker
I could see that. I just want some decent tackle play were we don't have to chip all the damn time. I'm tired of seeing Bushrod and Strief getting their shite pushed in.
Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:09 pm to blueslover
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Devery Henderson rated a woeful 104th out of 105 graded receivers
:crickets:
Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:17 pm to blueslover
Lance Moore is one of my favorite players in the NFL. Basically 8 years now on the Saints roster, time has really flown.
Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:22 pm to blueslover
Is there a stat comparing our offense this year and our record setting year on how many less possessions we had per game? The way our defense could never get stops, or get off the field I would think we had a possession or two less per game.
Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:24 pm to blueslover
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Drew Brees finished the year rated the 4th best quarterback in the league, despite what most of us would deem a down year. That's not quite 1st place, which is what he had last year, but still a very solid showing
Very, very impressive.
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Devery Henderson rated a woeful 104th out of 105 graded receivers. Joe Morgan rated 43rd
Definitely the Joe Morgan show from now on.
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Marques Colston was 46th, both middle of the pack, so it wasn't a good year for the Saints receivers. Colston's blocking rated 103rd out of 105
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Finally, Colston tied for the league lead with 3 fumbles. Not too impressive.
Ok, so I guess we can stop with the "Colston got snubbed by the Pro Bowl again!" talk.
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Jimmy Graham was second overall last year but no such luck this year. He still ranked 10th out of 62, though, which is higher than I would have expected. Most of that is thanks to a huge improvement in the blocking scores from last year. He led all tight ends with dropped pass (15) and the next had five less.
Jesus, get that hand fixed.
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Once again PFF agreed with me that Jermon Bushrod's trip to the Pro Bowl was not justified, as he came in with a rating of 44th best out of 80 players graded. Zach Strief ranked 49th though he played through injury most of the year which can explain that.
Now I feel dumb.
I've been getting on Strief for sucking.
I didn't realize Bushrod was getting beat just as much.
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Brian de la Puente fared far better than I could have ever imagined. Indeed, he was 2nd overall in the entire league out of 36 centers.
I guess that's why we never hear his name.
Man, maybe we really do need Tackle help.
Either way, it'll be much better next season with CSP.
Posted on 2/3/13 at 7:55 pm to blueslover
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C - Shockingly, Brian de la Puente fared far better than I could have ever imagined. Indeed, he was 2nd overall in the entire league out of 36 centers. Only John Sullivan of the Vikings was better. Former Saints Jonathan Goodwin and Jeff Faine ranked 10th and dead last at 36, respectively. BDLP was solid in all areas which led to his high grade, but most impressive was that he ranked #1 in screen pass blocking.
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