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re: The Decision That Cost Hitler the War - "Hitler’s American Gamble" book

Posted on 11/25/21 at 7:23 am to
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/25/21 at 7:23 am to
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A waste of millions of peoples lives in Europe, and all for nothing.




Well not for nothing exactly. During this time Spam was invented.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59509 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 7:29 am to
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I don’t believe this. FDR was itching for a fight with Hitler. Even more so than with the Japanese.


Yep. It’s bullshite.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 11/25/21 at 7:39 am to
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In early December German forces stood close to Moscow, and it seemed the Soviet capital would soon fall.


Would the world be better off if Moscow had fallen, Stalin's government collapsed, and the WAllies steamrolled the Nazis? The Wehrmact would still be overextended on the eastern front and dealing with an insurgency.
Posted by Dawgirl
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 11/25/21 at 7:54 am to
I dont think I will read the book. I'm a WWII history buff and have done A LOT of research on Hitler. I disagree with some of their suggestions. To really understand what was going on in Hitler's head, Mein Kampf is a must read.

Roosevelt wanted to stay neutral and did so until the attack on Pearl Harbor. There is documentation that Churchill new Japan was going to attack PH but did not tell Roosevelt because Churchill wanted us involved so he kept that information from Roosevelt so he would have no choice to declare war on Germany and Japan,

And all the nonsense about Hitler being "obsessed" with American power - under the first terms of Roosevelt, our military wasnt the best. So I dont think Hitler was too worried about us during the first years of the war. After the attack on PH, Hitler then realized he was going to have a problem. But I've never heard that he told Japan to attack us to distract us.

Hitler hated America but not because of our way of life but instead because he was ticked off that when he took power, a lot of Germans left Germany because they knew what he was about and he thought it was leaving him with the lowest of German people.

As to invading the SU, he told many of his so called allies that he didnt want to invade until Spring and was blaming his generals for going into the SU during the winter. He said his tanks were "fair weathered" tanks and he knew they would not suffice the harsh winters in the SU. There is an actual private recording of Hitler telling the minister of Denmark this.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 11/25/21 at 8:22 am to
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blaming his generals


Makes sense. They spent years at the military academy learning how to use a knife and fork. He should have liquidated the high ranking officers like Stalin did!
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59509 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 8:26 am to
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Roosevelt wanted to stay neutral


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/25/21 at 8:30 am to
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Sometimes it is like WW2 is the only war the US was ever involved it.


We were basically mop up duty and reinforcements for WWI. Got in way late.
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