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re: People buying these Crypto Currencies

Posted on 6/17/22 at 10:11 am to
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
33012 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 10:11 am to
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The whole point is it's verifiable.


I get that part. I was saying that if it is centralized somewhere, is that verifiable?


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Etherscan is a website that reads the validated blockchain and tells people what's going on


Isn’t that centralization via Etherscan?
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27189 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 10:22 am to
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I was saying that if it is centralized somewhere, is that verifiable?



A centralized ledger is only verifiable if you trust the holding party not to modify the ledger to their advantage. The point of decentralization is to have tons of people look at the ledger and say, "yup, checks out. We good."

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Isn’t that centralization via Etherscan?


Etherscan is just a website that reads the Ethereum blockchain. There are many services, private and public, that do this, be it for bitcoin, ethereum, cardona, etc. I only used it as an example as to how a normal person like you and me can read the blockchain and see what went where.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80823 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 10:29 am to
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Isn’t that centralization via Etherscan?
Etherscan is just an easy way any person can view the data. If you wanted to take all possibly corruption of data that is being reported (for example on Etherscan) out of the realm of possibility, anyone can run a node and verify the data themselves at home.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 10:30 am
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43310 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 11:24 am to
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Isn’t that centralization via Etherscan?


Yes. Ethereum the blockchain is very well decentralized, but the tools surrounding it are lacking decentralization. It's difficult & expensive for those tools to scale, so the centralized services came online first with bigger funding. Decentralized options are starting to pop up; for example, for an RPC provider there's now Pocket Network that competes with Infura, Alchemy, and others. For block explorers, there's one in development: Librescan


It is an expensive and difficult endeavor to keep track of and store every block transaction over the last year or so. So far, no decentralized options for block exploration have succeeded. There are multiple centralized block explorers, however, so data can be validated by a service through multiple explorers. A list of block explorers

In addition, node operators (most large projects will want to run nodes for efficiency) can look up data directly on the blockchain if they have things like transaction IDs and addresses.


All this is to say: The block explorers are not decentralized (yet), but there's enough competition and people watching that it'd take a really large coordinated effort to have all of these options show the same bad data. The data is very trustable.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 11:28 am
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