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re: Why Kiffin over Napier??

Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:33 am to
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:33 am to
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You realize Napier calls the plays right and for all purposes is the O Coordinator at ULL. Nothing fricking like O at all.



Not an inspiring piece of info.


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but as HC his record doesnt show he is better than Napier, opposite actually



Kiffin has proven himself at 2 separate stops at a G5 and P5 school. Napier has one single stop at a G5 school. Of course Kiffin has a better HC resume. It's not close.


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yea kiffin is proven to have high highs but a bunch of mediocrity in between



He never coached anywhere long enough to establish anything. You could say USC but that was a bizarre scenario.


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willie came from Oregon not G5.



Look at his resume BEFORE Oregon. He was at Oregon for 1 season only before jumping to FSU.


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both are risk



Kiffin not as much because you largely know who he is given his background and experience. Napier may have a higher ceiling but lower low.


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Offense but as HC he is lacking. unorganized and doesnt pay attention to details oh and he isnt some great recruiter either when he hasnt had ED O.



How can you say this given Ole Miss's performance this season? This is in direct contradiction with current physical reality.


Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31757 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:43 am to
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Kiffin has proven himself at 2 separate stops at a G5 and P5 school. Napier has one single stop at a G5 school. Of course Kiffin has a better HC resume. It's not close


i dont consider Kiffins failures at USC and the Raiders as positives for sure lol. I think thats where we disagree.

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He never coached anywhere long enough to establish anything. You could say USC but that was a bizarre scenario.


ummm showed same trend at FAU. i expect same at OM next year after Corral leaves.

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Look at his resume BEFORE Oregon. He was at Oregon for 1 season only before jumping to FSU.



i know willies past and also understand that he was given a shite program at FSU. they are still in the midst of that.

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Kiffin not as much because you largely know who he is given his background and experience. Napier may have a higher ceiling but lower low.


i somewhat agree. I think with kiffin you will get a fantastic Offense that will get you a lot of wins but prolly not win an NC and floor is prolly 8 wins, alot of mediocrity in between. Very much like his USC tenure.

napier has higher ceiling like you said, but absoltely due to lack of _P5 expierence and track record could bomb out completely. Nothing in his past shows that but i understand the concern.

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How can you say this given Ole Miss's performance this season? This is in direct contradiction with current physical reality.


what you mean? he didnt recruit this team and his results at OM are typical kiffin. up and down. this year is up, last year was down and next year is gonna be down once Corral goes pro. thats kiffens whole career.


i guess my thing is I see Kiffin as an OC pretending to be a HC. you get the fantastic Offense and everything else is left to chance.

his acting like a pissed off teenager playing madden with the 4th down calls are an issue with me too. I have no problem with 4th down calls on your side of the 50 or if they are very short etc but he has had some dumbass calls too.
Posted by mca
Greenville, SC
Member since Jan 2005
138 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:55 am to
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Napier may have a higher ceiling but lower low.


I think this is a good take and boils down why it is difficult to say one is clearly a better candidate.

I’m Team Napier because I like the ceiling.
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