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re: Alec Baldwin gets the old tweets being dug up treatment

Posted on 10/22/21 at 6:37 pm to
Posted by YMCA
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Posted on 10/22/21 at 6:37 pm to
As much as I don’t care for Baldwin, this is in no way his fault unless he messed with the gun prior to that scene. On any set, the actor should never have any part in loading/testing/modifying the gun aside from its use in that particular scene.

When doing scene rehearsals, they use a dummy gun/rubber gun and walk through everything to make sure people, cameras and so on are where they need to be. Once they are ready to roll film, the prop master will come on set announce there are hot guns on set and give the prop gun to the actor. They will immediately shoot the scene, the prop master will remove the gun and check it once again. At no point is anyone other that the prop master suppose to do anything to that gun.

Unless it comes back that Baldwin altered something after receiving the gun, this will more than likely for all the gun guy or someone working in that department.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/22/21 at 7:29 pm to
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As much as I don’t care for Baldwin, this is in no way his fault unless he messed with the gun prior to that scene. On any set, the actor should never have any part in loading/testing/modifying the gun aside from its use in that particular scene.
you have lost your god damn mind


In no way is it anyone’s fault but his. If I’m driving a car and someone tells me it’s safe to go it is my job to check myself.

I’ll be damned if I point a gun at someone and pull a trigger no matter the circumstances without checking, double checking and then checking again.

He killed the person he is responsible.
This post was edited on 10/22/21 at 7:30 pm
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 7:30 pm to
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‘Rust’ crew describes on-set gun safety issues and misfires days before fatal shooting

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Hours before actor Alec Baldwin fatally shot a cinematographer on the New Mexico set of “Rust” with a prop gun, a half-dozen camera crew workers walked off the set to protest working conditions.

The camera operators and their assistants were frustrated by the conditions surrounding the low-budget film, including complaints about long hours, long commutes and collecting their paychecks, according to three people familiar with the matter who were not authorized to comment.

Safety protocols standard in the industry, including gun inspections, were not strictly followed on the “Rust” set near Santa Fe, the sources said. They said at least one of the camera operators complained last weekend to a production manager about gun safety on the set.


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A colleague was so alarmed by the prop gun misfires he sent a text message to the unit production manager. “We’ve now had 3 accidental discharges. This is super unsafe,” according to a copy of the message reviewed by The Times.


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Three crew members who were present at the Bonanza Creek Ranch set that day said they were particularly concerned about two accidental prop gun discharges on Saturday.

Baldwin’s stunt double accidentally fired two rounds Saturday after being told that the gun was “cold” — lingo for a weapon that doesn’t have any ammunition, including blanks, two crew members who witnessed the episode told the Los Angeles Times.

“There should have been an investigation into what happened,” said the crew member. “There were no safety meetings. There was no assurance that it wouldn’t happen again. All they wanted to do was rush, rush, rush.”




Somebody(s) going down for this.

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Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/23/21 at 1:44 am to
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As much as I don’t care for Baldwin, this is in no way his fault unless he messed with the gun prior to that scene.

Then go ahead and tell us why he would have any reason to point a gun at the Director of Photography and the Director and pull the trigger?

Do you really think that was in the script?

If this happened to fellow actors who died and the scene called for him to shoot them, it would not be his fault.

But that didn’t happen. He pointed a gun capable of killing people at people he should not be pointing a gun at, and the stupid prick killed someone. Negligent homicide. Guilty.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7803 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 11:55 am to
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On any set, the actor should never have any part in loading/testing/modifying the gun aside from its use in that particular scene.


Close friend of mine just recently retired from working in Hollywood on set with dozens of prominent actors. Her comment to me was that in all the movies she worked on set with Clint Eastwood, he ALWAYS checked his prop guns personally after being told they were "cold" immediately before the scene was filmed. That's firearms safety 101 which Eastwood learned during his military service, if he didn't already know it.
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