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re: Coaches pay should be based on winning not on the possibility of winning

Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:18 pm to
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It would be nice if the Contracts were low base pay with a high incentive pay, but we would never get a decent coach.


The irony is LSU HAD the opportunity to do just that with Orgeron. When he was hired in 2016 NO OTHER MAJOR SCHOOL IN AMERICA considered him even a candidate for their HC job. Thus, Orgeron had no negotiating leverage. His options were either take the LSU job at whatever salary LSU offered...or continue to not be a major conf. HC.

We can argue all day long as to if hiring him in the first place was a wise move. But the reality is his initial contract wasn't (relatively speaking) that onerous for LSU to bail out of if the hire didn't work out. It was ONLY when Woodward lost his mind following 2019 and gave Ed a huge raise and 6 year extension...despite O's market demand not significantly increasing...that LSU got stuck with a $17 million buyout when things quickly went south.

In the majority of instances the coach hold ALL of the leverage because he knows MULTIPLE schools will be willing to pay him big money for his services. If LSU won't give him what he demands...no sweat. He'll just stay where he's at or go to a school that will.

If you want to hire a guy who will agree to work on a contingency fee basis, then don't be upset when the only guys willing to accept such deals are guys desperate for a job whom no one else wants to hire.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:28 pm to
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It was ONLY when Woodward lost his mind following 2019 and gave Ed a huge raise and 6 year extension...despite O's market demand not significantly increasing...that LSU got stuck with a $17 million buyout when things quickly went south.
correct. NO OTHER SCHOOL was coming after O, so we didn't need to raise or extend him. Besides, the "model" didn't change - which was to underpay O and use the extra cash on hiring the best assistants.

So naturally LSU did the opposite - gave O a huge raise and hired newbie coordinators. Utter disaster.
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