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re: Respiratory Therapist whistleblower says hospitals are killing people

Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:31 am to
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57437 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:31 am to
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4. A patient is already maxed on BiPAP with SpO2's in the 70's and is on the cusp of 2° multisystem damage and death as a result. Put more simply, vents are employed for CV19 when odds of survival w/o them approach zero.


UC Health seems to disagree and says anything south of an SpO2 of 85% is put on a ventilator.

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The Pan American Health Organization technically says LESS than 90% if “not improving”

LINK

So yea…back to my main points. It’s one of the three I posted and you kinda just agreed with me that the current approach being recommended is incorrect.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124189 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:52 am to
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theunknownknight
really?

You want to parse the difference between <85% are usually intubated/ventilated vs SpO2's in the 70's are intubated/ventilated?
Do you have a clue as to the clinical difference? or did you just google something to try and argue.

Regarding your link to practice in Latin America, I have no idea what their standards are. I'd be stunned if they even had the resources to ventilate all critical pts, much less those at SpO2s of ~90%. But you found a source that says otherwise. So, who knows?
Posted by smh4wg
Member since May 2021
777 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:10 pm to
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UC Health seems to disagree and says anything south of an SpO2 of 85% is put on a ventilator.


My oximeter instructions say to go to ER for anything less than 95%. Mine sometimes reaches 96, usually 94 or 95.

I asked my fam doc last week if the hospital would put me on a vent if I wanted it or not? He said no. I asked what if I was unconscious? He said I would have to fill out a do not resuscitate form, in advance, and then they wouldn't.

I'd rather die at home then give the hospital a chance to kill me for the 50K biden will give them.
This post was edited on 10/13/21 at 1:12 pm
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