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re: Early trials demonstrate effectiveness of mRNA cancer vaccine in mice.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:13 pm to crazy4lsu
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:13 pm to crazy4lsu
Why is this so polarizing and beyond intelligent dialogue? There’s no silver bullet as it stands now. We need to continually try different treatments until we see what works best. There’s no cure for many viruses, but like HIV, perhaps it takes a cocktail to control.
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Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:15 pm to League Champs
quote:Fair enough. I haven't either except the couple years I lived in the upper midwest.
No, I never have.
Regardless, the more people in your community who do, the more "close to normal" your life is each flu season, whether you realize it or not.
This post was edited on 9/9/21 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:16 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Not reading the whole thread. But two comments I'd expect if this was on the PT board:
"I'd rather get natural antibodies"
"only sheep will take the vaccine"
"I'd rather get natural antibodies"
"only sheep will take the vaccine"
This post was edited on 9/9/21 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:16 pm to Capt ST
quote:So many upvotes deserved
Why is this so polarizing and beyond intelligent dialogue? There’s no silver bullet as it stands now. We need to continually try different treatments until we see what works best. There’s no cure for many viruses, but like HIV, perhaps it takes a cocktail to control.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:23 pm to League Champs
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You keep demonstrating your lack of reading comprehension.
Tell me the pathways please. Or did you not even read the studies linked, including your own?
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:23 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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mRNA cancer vaccine in mice.
Just say that it's used for cattle and sell it at Tractor Supply Company next to the Ford Truck keychains.
Trust me. That's the only way you'll get some people to take it.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:27 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Yeah but did they try ivermectin
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:27 pm to UndercoverBryologist
I’m just gonna take cattle deworming medicine instead. I hear it cures you of anything these days
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:28 pm to League Champs
This an epically stupid hill to die on, but...
Define "halted", in medical terms. Then define "inhibited", in those same terms.
Define "halted", in medical terms. Then define "inhibited", in those same terms.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:35 pm to Sheep
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What THEY won't tell you - Ace Hardware sells a goat hoof softener ($6.99 a tube) that does the same thing. THE SAME THING, MAN.
Study it out.
Sadly, at this point, it’s hard to tell if that’s satire or not.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:37 pm to crazy4lsu
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Tell me the pathways please.
No one on any post in this thread concerned themselves with pathways. Only your stupid arse is using this rabbit hole to cover your ignorance.
OP: mRNA technology is possibly a treatment for cancer because it halted tumor growth, and caused a complete regression of the cancer. Not a single DAMN MENTION of how, because there is no "how" until it works on humans.
Linked study: IVM inhibits the proliferation of tumors at a dose that is not toxic to normal cells and can reverse the drug resistance of tumors. Importantly, IVM is an established drug and has been widely used in humans for many years. AGAIN, not a damn mention of how IVM can kill cancer cells in humans.
Both treatments have shown (prior to human use) that tumors can be shrunk, and cells can killed by their usage. THE SAME DAMN RESULT, not the same damn pathway. Who thinks like that?
It's not that hard of a concept. You have aspirin. You also have Tylenol. People would say they do the same thing, without every thinking of how they are do it differently.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:40 pm to League Champs
quote:Phonics apparently is, though.
It's not that hard of a concept. You have aspirin. You also have Tylenol. People would say they do the same thing, without every thinking of how they are do it differently.
Aspirin and Tylenol are both proven (but flawed) medicines for their respective clinical diagnoses (which aren't always the same). People who would say they "do the same" would be wrong. They don't even necessarily treat the same symptoms.
Neither mRNA or Ivermectin are proven cancer treatments. Both are in similar stages of testing, and no one has claimed otherwise.
This post was edited on 9/9/21 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:47 pm to Gravitiger
quote:
Define "halted", in medical terms. Then define "inhibited", in those same terms.
How about I let the study define it
quote:
IVM regulates the tumor microenvironment, inhibits the activity of tumor stem cells and reduces tumor angiogenesis and tumor metastasis. IVM preferentially killed leukemia cells at low concentrations without affecting normal hematopoietic cells.
Is killing cancer cells the same as halted?
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:49 pm to UndercoverBryologist
And no one who posts here will be able to afford the treatment if and when it becomes a reality.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:51 pm to League Champs
Thanks. All I was asking for was an actual medical definition, which you have now provided.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:51 pm to Gravitiger
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Phonics apparently is, though.
Aspirin and Tylenol are both proven (but flawed) medicines for their respective clinical diagnoses (which aren't always the same).
Neither mRNA or Ivermectin are proven cancer treatments. Both are in similar stages of testing, and no one has claimed otherwise.
Are you retarded, or his alter?
This thread is on the OT, and in laymen's terms describing a potential cancer treatment. Yet you two are on here parsing pathways, human clinical trials, and flaws in current medications.
And grammar.
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