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re: Vaccine Skepticism Explained

Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:22 pm to
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:22 pm to
You’re asking a complicated question. Think about how not all antibiotics kill every bacteria just because they’re antibiotics.

In addition, remdesivir is used on hospitalized patients. By the time you’re hospitalized, the virus has already started a chain of events that may or may not be reversible.

Studies have shown it MIGHT reduce a hospital stay by 1-2 days if it does anything.

It didn’t reduce mortality or progression to a vent. It just made you get better slightly quicker if you were going to get better anyway.

Somehow this got approved for covid use and Gilead saw fit to charge 3-5k per course of therapy.

Actemra is used to “pause” the cytokine storm and showed promise early. It reduced 30day mortality in patients receiving steroids. But it did not reduce 90day mortality- this suggests it may just delay the inevitable. It costs 4-12k depending on dose and if you get one or two doses.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33626 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

You’re asking a complicated question. Think about how not all antibiotics kill every bacteria just because they’re antibiotics.

In addition, remdesivir is used on hospitalized patients. By the time you’re hospitalized, the virus has already started a chain of events that may or may not be reversible.

Studies have shown it MIGHT reduce a hospital stay by 1-2 days if it does anything.

It didn’t reduce mortality or progression to a vent. It just made you get better slightly quicker if you were going to get better anyway.

Somehow this got approved for covid use and Gilead saw fit to charge 3-5k per course of therapy.

Actemra is used to “pause” the cytokine storm and showed promise early. It reduced 30day mortality in patients receiving steroids. But it did not reduce 90day mortality- this suggests it may just delay the inevitable. It costs 4-12k depending on dose and if you get one or two doses.
Meanwhile, we know the vaccines absolutely mitigate acuity, and yet we're determined to ignore that obvious fact.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67051 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:28 pm to
interesting. thanks
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