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re: Rand Paul says new Wuhan documents show Fauci lied

Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:41 pm to
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:41 pm to
Using viruses as a gene delivery system is nothing new. Adenovirus, Lentivirus and adeno-associated viral vector systems are commonly used in research and have been tested/explored for clinical applications such as alpha 1 antitrypsin deficiency and other genetic disorders. So there is an argument to be made for the value of such research.

A point made earlier that such a technology could be weaponized is certainly a possibility.

I have yet to see credible evidence of that with COVID19. I do think there is a reasonable suspicion that the lab was studying the virus and lost control of it. We know that's a formal possibility. We have BSL 2 and 3 lab designations and practices to avoid such events, but that doesn't mean they were followed or that the investigators were aware of just how transmittable this strain is.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35215 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:08 pm to
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A point made earlier that such a technology could be weaponized is certainly a possibility. I have yet to see credible evidence of that with COVID19.


The Chinese military was teaching about it as a means of attacking the west (USA) iirc.

Sky News Australia did a shorty on it. Let me see if I can dig it up.

ETA

Found it:

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Documents reveal China discussed weaponisation of coronaviruses prior to pandemic May 08, 2021 - 00:29AM


Top scientists outlined their ideas in the document predicting a third world war would be fought with biological weapons.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 4:14 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35215 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:22 pm to
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I do think there is a reasonable suspicion that the lab was studying the virus and lost control of it. We know that's a formal possibility. We have BSL 2 and 3 lab designations and practices to avoid such events, but that doesn't mean they were followed or that the investigators were aware of just how transmittable this strain is.


I would argue that they knew.

Why else would the following occur?

China ‘purged’ COVID-19 data once it realised the full scale of global pandemic

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Leaked data from the Wuhan Institute of Virology has indicated the Chinese Communist Party “purged” the database to drastically alter the country’s real COVID-19 figures according to former cyber security contractor Robert Potter.


quote:

“Once the story became quite a bit contentious, (and) when the Chinese Communist Party realized that the coronavirus was going to become a global pandemic, they went about purging the data.”


Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:22 pm to
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Using viruses as a gene delivery system is nothing new. Adenovirus, Lentivirus and adeno-associated viral vector systems are commonly used in research and have been tested/explored for clinical applications such as alpha 1 antitrypsin deficiency and other genetic disorders. So there is an argument to be made for the value of such research.


The problem is if a virus gets out, it can, you know, kill millions of people. So there is an argument to be made against that type of research.
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