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re: Calm Down Liberals - No one is coming for your abortions

Posted on 9/6/21 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
5565 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 1:50 pm to
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My personal belief is that life does not begin at conception. The potential for life begins at conception but that is not the same thing. A lot can happen between when something goes in and something comes out. You can't know whether or not someone who has an abortion wouldn't have had a miscarriage had they decided differently.
Human life begins at conception and continues on a continuum through birth until physical death.

Sometimes life is ended in the mother’s womb spontaneously by a miscarriage, or intentionally by means of abortion.
Or a car crash, or a fatal fire, or a gunshot.
Or the infant dies of crib death, leukemia or a horrible accident.
Or the football player dies of heat stroke or his sister or brother dies overseas by a terrorists ID.
Or a middle aged father of three dies of a heart attack or a plant explosion.
Or grandma dies sitting in front of her TV and her husband of 60 years dies a year later quietly in his sleep of weariness and loneliness.

Each of those lives ended as they did, when they did, and each began at conception. There’s no distinction between human life and a human life.


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my point of view is that a life begins when that life has suffienctly developed circulatory, respiratory, and digestive systems to a point that it is not dependent upon being attached to a tube that supplies all of these things via the mother. Then it is a separate life from the mother's. Until then it is part of the mother because if the mother doesn't exist, it doesn't exist.

By that thinking until the infant can sit up, make it’s breakfast and change itself, and drive itself to the pediatrician it’s fair game for the abortion ghouls.
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 1:54 pm
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
14053 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 2:20 pm to
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By that thinking until the infant can sit up, make it’s breakfast and change itself, and drive itself to the pediatrician it’s fair game for the abortion ghouls.


No that is not anything at all what my thinking is like. Can it breathe by itself? Does it's heart circulate enough blood for it to survive without additional blood being circulated by the mother? Can it digest food on it's own, even if that food is only milk and baby food? Those are the parameters I am using. Sitting up, making breakfast, and changing itself has nothing to do with those parameters. In order for it to be a separate life from the mother it has to have some kind of degree of independence to it. Those are the lowest bars of independence I can think of to classify it as a unique and separate life of it's own and not part of the mother that is developing into a separate life but has not got there yet.
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