- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Wait til the world learns the vaxxed are the dangerous ones: 251x viral load as unvaxxed
Posted on 8/24/21 at 5:11 pm to 00 Tech Grad
Posted on 8/24/21 at 5:11 pm to 00 Tech Grad
Complete bullshite. The website you linked said this:
That is NOT what the fricking study said. Let's quote the study:
Notice how it said "uninfected" controls, not unvaccinated. This study took place at a hospital in Vietnam. ALL the participants were healthcare workers, so I am sure they all were vaccinated. The study did not mention anywhere (that I can find) that the control group was unvaccinated.
What the paper says (as I highlighted in bold) is that people infected with Delta have a 251 times viral load compared to people infected with the Wuhan strain in 2020. That's all it says. Nowhere does it say the vaccine "caused" the higher viral load. You would need an unvaccinated control group for that which they didn't have. (In fact, it would be highly unethical to run a study in 2021 with an unvaccinated control).
quote:
The study found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.
That is NOT what the fricking study said. Let's quote the study:
quote:
Between 11th–25th June 2021 (week 7–8 after dose 2), 69 healthcare workers were tested positive for SARS-CoV-2. 62 participated in the clinical study. 49 were (pre)symptomatic with one requiring oxygen supplementation. All recovered uneventfully. 23 complete-genome sequences were obtained. They all belonged to the Delta variant, and were phylogenetically distinct from the contemporary Delta variant sequences obtained from community transmission cases, suggestive of ongoing transmission between the workers. Viral loads of breakthrough Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher than those of cases infected with old strains detected between March-April 2020. Time from diagnosis to PCR negative was 8–33 days (median: 21). Neutralizing antibody levels after vaccination and at diagnosis of the cases were lower than those in the matched uninfected controls. There was no correlation between vaccine-induced neutralizing antibody levels and viral loads or the development of symptoms.
Notice how it said "uninfected" controls, not unvaccinated. This study took place at a hospital in Vietnam. ALL the participants were healthcare workers, so I am sure they all were vaccinated. The study did not mention anywhere (that I can find) that the control group was unvaccinated.
What the paper says (as I highlighted in bold) is that people infected with Delta have a 251 times viral load compared to people infected with the Wuhan strain in 2020. That's all it says. Nowhere does it say the vaccine "caused" the higher viral load. You would need an unvaccinated control group for that which they didn't have. (In fact, it would be highly unethical to run a study in 2021 with an unvaccinated control).
Posted on 8/24/21 at 5:30 pm to AUstar
quote:
AUstar
yea you gotta just go ahead and abandon all sense of logical data interpretation when discussing with anti-vaxxers.
theyll just go ahead and run with a headline from a notorious anti-vax propaganda group and Vehemently ignore the actual data and study that the headline was fabricated from.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 8:36 pm to AUstar
It's unfortunate that there are folks here who will read the thread title, believe it, and move on.
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News