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re: Dallas ISD Makes Masks Mandatory as Students Return to Classrooms

Posted on 8/9/21 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50905 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 1:09 pm to
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I am so proud of [Dallas ISD] for protecting students and staff!


Masks do nothing. There is literally no data to support masking.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52945 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 1:12 pm to
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Students have to fight this. Students have to be willing to say frick this I'm not wearing a mask or its not going to happen. Everything that is being done is only going to affect them. It's all about their state of mind and whether or not they want to be controlled.



I told my 1st grader yesterday, that he doesn't have to wear a mask if he doesn't want to. And that he only has to put one on, if a teacher makes him. My son's Catholic school has been easing their initial mandates, which makes them purely nonsensical at this point. They dont' have to wear them while they are outside. But never specifically states to wear them inside. No masks during lunch, just when walking around. I don't even know the rules anymore because they are so all over the place.
This post was edited on 8/9/21 at 1:14 pm
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7859 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 1:13 pm to
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What is the situation was reversed? What if the state government was mandating mask mandates, and a school district didn't want them?

I don't think you get to pick and choose just based on the issue


I choose the same way. Whichever entity provides me more freedom. In your hypothetical, I choose the school district.

I don't like govt overreach. And in some weird convoluted way, the state govt stepping in is being used to prevent local govt overreach.

In a perfect world the school district wouldn't be made up of political hacks and they would have settled on a science based decision, no masks for children.

But I think where we do agree... as a whole should governance be pushed down to the most local level possible.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16468 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 1:14 pm to
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I am so proud of [Dallas ISD] for protecting students and staff!" Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins wrote in a tweet soon after Hinojosa's announcement. "


Good to know that Judges write political opinions. Especially ones directly contradictory to the Executive office.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45874 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 1:19 pm to
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If it's a law, and not an EO, then send in the state police to deal with it.

No need to cut funding or make up insubordination claims.

But I disagreed with the state mandate (or prevention of mandates I guess) to begin with. I still think these decisions should be made on a local level.

And if the heavily democrat Dallas ISD wants masks... knock themselves out.
I understand what you are saying, but if what you are saying is that the "law" should be handled as locally as possible, what could be MORE local than parents making the decision for their own child?

What Abbott's EO does is to prevent the tyranny of school districts over the wishes of parents. Period.

You start with parents and work your way up from there.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9599 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 1:25 pm to
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No. Students have to fight this. Students have to be willing to say frick this I'm not wearing a mask or its not going to happen. Everything that is being done is only going to affect them. It's all about their state of mind and whether or not they want to be controlled.



Yep. Students go to school without mask. Let them send them home. File lawsuit depriving of right to education.
Posted by StrangeBrew
Salvation Army-Thanks Obama
Member since May 2009
18185 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 1:27 pm to
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Normal people live in the ring of ISDs surrounding Dallas.



That ring unfortunately is getting larger and larger as Dallas infects the surrounding cities.
Posted by Lakebound
Member since Nov 2004
3837 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
29232 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 2:08 pm to
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I am so proud of [Dallas ISD] for protecting students and staff!


Proud is absolutely not the word I would use. Not even close. More like the opposite.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37185 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 2:51 pm to
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Good to know that Judges write political opinions. Especially ones directly contradictory to the Executive office.


So in Texas, the County Judge isn't a judge... he is basically the parish president...
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37185 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 2:54 pm to
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What Abbott's EO does is to prevent the tyranny of school districts over the wishes of parents. Period.


1) I'm willing to bet a majority of Dallas ISD parents (to the extent these kids even have parents who care) support a mask policy.

2) There are other ways to accomplish this without state heavy-handedness.

I agree that parents ultimately should make the decision for their kids. You also should recognize - and this is going to sound very egotistical of me - but a lot of the "parents" in that school district aren't as enlightened as perhaps you and I are.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111673 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 3:31 pm to
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PT Board: What makes the ISD model great is local control! No state mandates! Local voice! Local control! Also PT Board: How dare the local ISD make a decision! How dare they go against what the governor - who has nothing to do with education - wants!


You don’t have a spine. Sad.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37185 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 3:47 pm to
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You don’t have a spine. Sad.


It's the opposite. My spine doesn't bend to the whims of the issue at hand.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45874 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 6:37 pm to
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I agree that parents ultimately should make the decision for their kids. You also should recognize - and this is going to sound very egotistical of me - but a lot of the "parents" in that school district aren't as enlightened as perhaps you and I are.

That's not the point here. If DISD gets away with it, the other ISD's, run by woke superintendents beholden to teacher's union, will take away my parental rights to make that decision for my child. It's a bigger battle than DISD vs. Abbott.
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