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re: Question about vaccine?
Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:10 pm to Flats
Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:10 pm to Flats
quote:that's not true at all and is an absurd suggestion that you wouldn't apply to anything else.
If you claim a vaccine works, you’re implying nobody will get sick.
blood pressure meds work, yet no medications are 100% effective 100% of the time. You would be implying no medications work.
Seatbelts save lives. some people still die wearing seatbelts. You would be implying seatbelts don't work.
no one needs to qualify those statements, its unreasonable to assume a seatbelt makes you invincible.
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vaccine - a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.
the vaccine works especially in the context of its definition. providing immunity does not imply 100% that the protection cannot be overwhelmed. you are the one moving goalposts by suggesting the vaccine must be 100% effective, which was literally never a reasonable understanding when they are mentioned to be effective.
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 5:13 pm
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:46 pm to AMS
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that's not true at all and is an absurd suggestion that you wouldn't apply to anything else.
What's absurd is pretending that the context is the same regardless of the topic. Yes, there is a different implied threshold between a vaccine that works and a blood pressure medicine that works. If some guy fixes your truck and it breaks down before you get out of the parking lot, you don't accept "well, no fix is 100%, you should know that". At the same time you don't bring it back to him 5 years and 100,000 miles later and claim he didn't fix it correctly.
To the topic at hand, I have zero problem with "the vaccine greatly reduces your chance of death" or any other phrase people want to use that's backed up by data. I don't have a problem with the vaccine, I have a problem with bullshite claims that are later walked back. If it's 80% effective just admit it's 80% effective. There's a reason the CDC has become a laughing stock, and it's because they can't be accurate and honest up front.
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