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re: TMZ video of Jaxson Hayes Arrest
Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:16 pm to bugafor6
Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:16 pm to bugafor6
I don't know if this is generational. But I don't understand this POV. How do you want cops to handle this?
A neighbor called the police because they heard loud arguments at 3 am. Should the cops go?
They get there and aren't allowed to talk to the female. Should they leave without confirming her condition?
By law, they have the authority to enter the property, find the other party and confirm they are OK. Should they have disregarded their duty and just left?
When they followed procedure, this massive professional athlete tried to stop them. I don't think people understand how huge Hayes is. What do you do when he shoves you? What should they have done?
I just don't get supporting Hayes. Maybe he was emotional after the fight. But he had a friend there trying to settle him down and pull him away (like a good friend should). This a big teaching moment. Hopefully he learns. I don't like him accusing the cops of abuse though. It's chickenshit and those cops have to be investigated as a result, possibly losing their careers. He cried wolf and tried to end them. But he shouldn't have to face any consequences?
A neighbor called the police because they heard loud arguments at 3 am. Should the cops go?
They get there and aren't allowed to talk to the female. Should they leave without confirming her condition?
By law, they have the authority to enter the property, find the other party and confirm they are OK. Should they have disregarded their duty and just left?
When they followed procedure, this massive professional athlete tried to stop them. I don't think people understand how huge Hayes is. What do you do when he shoves you? What should they have done?
I just don't get supporting Hayes. Maybe he was emotional after the fight. But he had a friend there trying to settle him down and pull him away (like a good friend should). This a big teaching moment. Hopefully he learns. I don't like him accusing the cops of abuse though. It's chickenshit and those cops have to be investigated as a result, possibly losing their careers. He cried wolf and tried to end them. But he shouldn't have to face any consequences?
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Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:21 pm to brmark70816
quote:
I don't know if this is generational. But I don't understand this POV. How do you want cops to handle this?
A neighbor called the police because they heard loud arguments at 3 am. Should the cops go?
They get there and aren't allowed to talk to the female. Should they leave without confirming her condition?
By law, they have the authority to enter the property, find the other party and confirm they are OK. Should they have disregarded their duty and just left?
When they followed procedure, this massive professional athlete tried to stop them. I don't think people understand how huge Hayes is. What do you do when he shoves you? What should they have done?
I just don't get supporting Hayes. Maybe he was emotional after the fight. But he had a friend there trying to settle him down and pull him away (like a good friend should). This a big teaching moment. Hopefully he learns. I don't like him accusing the cops of abuse though. It's chickenshit and those cops have to be investigated as a result, possibly losing their careers. He cried wolf and tried to end them. But he shouldn't have to face any consequences?
Exactly...
People completely disregard the perspective that the cops are there on what they believe is a possible domestic violence situation.
A high AF giant refusing to let you speak with anyone in the house is fishy as frick. Once he has established that he is going to try and physically keep you from entering the house, you have to detain him so you can do your job. Then when he establishes he wont allow you to detain him and be comes the aggressor, then what?
like please, someone give me literally any reasonable action the cops should have taken other than what occurred.
Jaxon really seems like a fricking moron most of the time.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:23 pm to brmark70816
Posted on 8/27/21 at 1:00 pm to brmark70816
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A neighbor called the police because they heard loud arguments at 3 am.
Have confirmed this also happened? Because the link has the 911 call made by the cousin of Jax’s GF:
quote:
after a woman called 911, claiming she received "disturbing" texts from her cousin who claimed Hayes was "getting loud and violent," adding she was "scared and couldn't call the police herself."
If you listen to the 911 call, she also says that Jax’s family was on the phone with him trying to calm him down. I’m wondering if there is a lot more going on with Hayes behind the scene regarding potential mental health issues or if he just had a really bad “trip”
Two other things I learned from watching the body cam:
1.) the shove from Hayes was more forceful than I was picturing, although it might have to do with him being twice that guys size than the amount of force Hayes actually intended to use.
2.) the police union letter to the NBA asking to suspend Hayes for using the n-word is ridiculous. He was clearly using it as common slang and not as a pejorative or derogatory manner towards a particular person. Again, their letter was petty and beneath their position.
This post was edited on 8/27/21 at 1:07 pm
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