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Two way radio help. License free?

Posted on 8/3/21 at 4:02 pm
Posted by icutmyownlawn
Member since Jun 2021
931 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 4:02 pm
I have two handheld programmable radios for communication. When purchased, I never knew that I needed a HAM license to use them until yesterday. After some Googling, I found this chart and a bunch of mixed information.



Can anyone confirm if those 22 channels/frequencies are free to use without a HAM license? If they are not free to use, how can I get the frequencies that Walmart walkie-talkies would use?

Thank you.
Posted by captron
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Member since Jul 2018
407 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 6:03 pm to

Been a while but what I remember:

Are the radios FRS(family radio service) or GMRS (general mobile radio service) ? The FMS power output is lower and no license is needed. If it's GMRS a license is needed but no test is involved, just send them money.

The difference is the transmit power of the two services.

FCC link
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6872 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:01 am to
quote:

I never knew that I needed a HAM license to use them


Just to be a bit more accurate;

GMRS and Amateur (HAM) licenses are totally different things. Holding an Amateur license does not grant you GMRS privileges. The 70cm band for US Amateur radio spans 420.000–450.000 MHz, FRS/GMRS is outside of that range.

Posted by icutmyownlawn
Member since Jun 2021
931 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:02 pm to
This is a little more than I was expecting. Kind of confusing. I should have just bought regular walkie-talkies.

The radios I have are both Baofeng UV-5R's. 4 watts. Frequency range of 136-174 MHz and 400-480MHz. Supposedly they can be programmed to use FRS.

I don't mind paying. I would prefer not to of course. Don't really see the need for a HAM license either. I just want to use them for kayak to kayak communication without Government intrusion.

I appreciate the help, advice from all of you. Thanks.
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