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re: Why is it so difficult for Hollywood to make good movies?
Posted on 7/31/21 at 12:51 pm to DaleGribble
Posted on 7/31/21 at 12:51 pm to DaleGribble
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Even a movie like The Toy would be considered far too inappropriate to get made in today's climate.
While I agree that movies like The Toy wouldn't be made today, what we were referring to was Tarantino's quote. To fully understand Tarantino's quote, you have to compare 70s to 80s. (He was making an observation of movies he saw in the 70s versus movies his saw in the 80s.) Compare 80s to today would be apples and oranges.
Also, and while I don't discount the influence of PC culture on the reason why movies like The Toy wouldn't be made today, I think it has to be noted that there's a general overally declining trend in comedic releases overall this past decade.
Don't ask me where the comedies have gone. You think you would see more woke comedies or something like that, but even those movies aren't getting made. Hollywood just isn't banking on funny movies these days. (Or, if they are, they are banking on comedic action movies like the Guardians of the Galaxy.)
This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 7/31/21 at 1:04 pm to UndercoverBryologist
They can't make woke comedies because the intended audience for those movies is perpetually offended and will even get offended over not being able to find a reason to be offended.
I think that Tarantino, like a lot of people, over glamorizes film in the 70s. If giving a writer/director total control over their films hadn't resulted in so many pretentious, up their own arse, bombs from filmmakers like Cimino, Ashby, and Rafelson, they would still be making them.
I think that Tarantino, like a lot of people, over glamorizes film in the 70s. If giving a writer/director total control over their films hadn't resulted in so many pretentious, up their own arse, bombs from filmmakers like Cimino, Ashby, and Rafelson, they would still be making them.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 2:46 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Don't ask me where the comedies have gone. You think you would see more woke comedies or something like that, but even those movies aren't getting made. Hollywood just isn't banking on funny movies these days. (Or, if they are, they are banking on comedic action movies like the Guardians of the Galaxy.)
I think comedy is almost an entirely separate discussion. “Good” comedy movies are difficult to do well, and there aren’t a whole lot of people writing them. It’s a lot harder to make a funny, engaging feature-length film than a 30 minute sitcom.
There were some really funny movies produced from ~2005-2012, but when you look back at the most successful titles you realize that most of them came from either the Will Ferrell or Judd Apatow “camp” (or both). There are a few notable exceptions like The Hangover, but the influence Ferrell and Apatow had on comedy films in that period really can’t be understated.
I don’t know why those guys have stopped hammering out funny movies - maybe they ran out of material, or their brands of comedy got stale, but I don’t think it has much to do with PC culture. I think Superbad, The Other Guys, Step Brothers, The Goods, etc. would still be pretty damned funny and successful if they were released today instead of 10-15 years ago.
Regardless, I guess it’s a question of who’s going to pick up that mantle. Maybe it’s a matter of trust from the big studios, and nobody else has earned the confidence yet that those guys had 10 years ago.
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