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re: Legal battle over right-to-life of Lafayette man in vegetative state
Posted on 7/27/21 at 3:51 pm to Dixierebel
Posted on 7/27/21 at 3:51 pm to Dixierebel
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Really you dont think he is suffering? You think because he is unable to communicate and in a vegetative state he is not suffering? I would bet he has bedsores which is causing pain. Medicaid will only pay for basic care in the nursing home. They will only pay initial physical therapy, so basically he is a turn and water. Unless you have mega dollars to pay for TIRR he has chance to get better and even then his chances are slim and none. Every case is different but I would not want to live like that!
He won't continue to live like this if his mom gets guardianship. He isn't in a vegetative state. He is minimally consious. There is alot that Medicaid will pay for that he isn't getting and has never gotten. Josh is very responsive and has a high chance at recovery
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Posted on 7/27/21 at 3:53 pm to supadave3
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I don’t know how, but I clicked that link and then 2 minutes later was watching a lady teach how to clean a vulva puppet. That was weird.
After the video on tiktok is over you can either replay it or it just goes to another random video on tiktok
Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:02 pm to CoachChappy
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conflict appears to be between a wife who is ready to let go and a mother who refuses to give up hope
Let the mom pay the medical bills.
I’ve given my family clear instructions to let me go.
This. I refuse to live in a vegetative state. I have instructed my loved ones to pull the plug if it comes to that. I don't want that burden on my family. I was recently in the hospital for several months (second half of 2020 and first part of 2021), nearly dying on a couple of occasions. Prior to a very major but necessary surgery that put me in ICU for three months, I had to tell my family that I loved them, and if I don't regain functionality, to call hospice and let me go. Fortunately, I made it out, and I am back at work, but my family has clear instructions. If it ever comes to that, there should be NO DOUBT on what to do.
I had a long-time friend that recently died with similar issues (22 years older), and he fought for several months (was ill for two years) before he decided on hospice and passed within 12 hours. He didn't want to be that burden on his family, but he had a wife and three kids at home (he did get to say goodbye to his family). I never got to visit him thanks to COVID, and my issues. I did get to go to his funeral (two weeks ago) and talk to his wife and kids. I trust that they'll make the right decision, and if it's wrong, if I'm dead, why would I care?
conflict appears to be between a wife who is ready to let go and a mother who refuses to give up hope
Let the mom pay the medical bills.
I’ve given my family clear instructions to let me go.
This. I refuse to live in a vegetative state. I have instructed my loved ones to pull the plug if it comes to that. I don't want that burden on my family. I was recently in the hospital for several months (second half of 2020 and first part of 2021), nearly dying on a couple of occasions. Prior to a very major but necessary surgery that put me in ICU for three months, I had to tell my family that I loved them, and if I don't regain functionality, to call hospice and let me go. Fortunately, I made it out, and I am back at work, but my family has clear instructions. If it ever comes to that, there should be NO DOUBT on what to do.
I had a long-time friend that recently died with similar issues (22 years older), and he fought for several months (was ill for two years) before he decided on hospice and passed within 12 hours. He didn't want to be that burden on his family, but he had a wife and three kids at home (he did get to say goodbye to his family). I never got to visit him thanks to COVID, and my issues. I did get to go to his funeral (two weeks ago) and talk to his wife and kids. I trust that they'll make the right decision, and if it's wrong, if I'm dead, why would I care?
Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:03 pm to Allluvnohate
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He isn't in a vegetative state. He is minimally consious.
He doesn't look that way in the videos. He looks like he has involuntary movements. Is there a physician who has given this opinion? On the Dr. Phil Youtube video, some patient's records were shown which said he was in a "persistent vegetative state". Are there records that state otherwise?
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Josh is very responsive and has a high chance at recovery
Where is this documented by medical personnel?
Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:12 pm to AMS
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spouse supersedes parents as a medical proxy. unless he had a living will, or theres some potential crime being committed by the wife for withdrawal of care She will be ultimately successful. unless if the husband is able to express his wishes somehow which does not seem to be the case.
In March of 2018 they filed for divorce. After his injury she canceled the divorce without his knowledge or consent. Not only is a conflict of interest for her to be his guardian because she has a pending wrongful death lawsuit and stands to gain financially in his death, she has also collected thousands of dollars from dozens of fundraisers for his hyperbaric oxygen treatments but instead of getting him the treatments she took the money and went on vacations with her girlfriend. She has not acted in his best interest and has most definitely committed a crime
Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:22 pm to Upperdecker
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The frick. Why is mom keeping him alive? Dude clearly wished to die
He didn't want to die. He was trying to avoid detox in jail and wanted to be taken to a hospital. He isnt on life support. I guarantee he doesn't want to be starved to death. He can recover with therapy and treatment which is what his mom plans to get him
Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:28 pm to Gravitiger
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He doesn't have a medical team. Nothing further has been done to explore his mental capacity.
If this is so...
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specialists who know Josh's case and have said exactly what they believe is possible.
...how is this so?
Josh had specialists when this initially happened and he was in the hospital. At that time they believed he would stay in that condition. This was in the first 6 weeks after his injury. That is to soon to be able to know what Josh is capable of. After leaving the hospital he showed a great deal of improvement and proved the Dr's were wrong with their original assessment. The vile monster never did anything to have him evaluated again. He has never been seen or treated by specialist since.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:36 pm to Gris Gris
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He doesn't have a medical team. Nothing further has been done to explore his mental capacity.
If this is so...
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specialists who know Josh's case and have said exactly what they believe is possible.
...how is this so?
This is what I find confusing as well. Who are the specialists and what have they said specifically about Josh's case?
I would assume that before pulling nutrition from him, there would need to be some sort of diagnosis from a physician supporting such a decision. Does that diagnosis exist currently.
It's an awful situation any way you look at it. People in vegetative states can open their eyes and have involuntary movements and reactions, but that doesn't mean they are conscious or have brain activity. I can understand wanting to be absolutely certain there is nothing there. On the other hand, I can understand not wanting to see a loved one living in that condition. I wouldn't want to be kept alive in that state.
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His specialist were from the first 6 weeks of him injury at the hospital. He improved greatly after leaving the hospital but was never seen again after that by specialists. The vile monster put him on hospice. Hospice discharged him last year because he no longer qualifies. He isn't dying or declining
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 1:48 am
Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:41 pm to Allluvnohate
Keep posting 
Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:42 pm to littleavery1948
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conflict appears to be between a wife who is ready to let go and a mother who refuses to give up hope
Let the mom pay the medical bills.
I’ve given my family clear instructions to let me go.
This. I refuse to live in a vegetative state. I have instructed my loved ones to pull the plug if it comes to that. I don't want that burden on my family. I was recently in the hospital for several months (second half of 2020 and first part of 2021), nearly dying on a couple of occasions. Prior to a very major but necessary surgery that put me in ICU for three months, I had to tell my family that I loved them, and if I don't regain functionality, to call hospice and let me go. Fortunately, I made it out, and I am back at work, but my family has clear instructions. If it ever comes to that, there should be NO DOUBT on what to do.
I had a long-time friend that recently died with similar issues (22 years older), and he fought for several months (was ill for two years) before he decided on hospice and passed within 12 hours. He didn't want to be that burden on his family, but he had a wife and three kids at home (he did get to say goodbye to his family). I never got to visit him thanks to COVID, and my issues. I did get to go to his funeral (two weeks ago) and talk to his wife and kids. I trust that they'll make the right decision, and if it's wrong, if I'm dead, why would I care?
Josh never gave any instructions to anyone. He isn't in a vegetative state and he can improve but his evil estranged wife has neglected to get him any treatment or therapy that could help him. That's what his mom plans to do when she gets guardianship. There is no plug to pull. Josh isn't on life support. He is young and healthy, not dying. It would take weeks or even months to starve him to death. That is cruel and nobody should be able to take his life when he never expressed that's what he would want
Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:44 pm to Allluvnohate
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In March of 2018 they filed for divorce. After his injury she canceled the divorce without his knowledge or consent.
"They" filed or "she" filed? Normally only one party sues the other for divorce.
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Not only is a conflict of interest for her to be his guardian because she has a pending wrongful death lawsuit and stands to gain financially in his death
You can't file a wrongful death suit when someone is alive.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:46 pm to Allluvnohate
quote:I thought he doesn't have a specialist now?
the hbot specialist even agreed it can still help him now
Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:48 pm to Allluvnohate
Bitches be crazy
Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:48 pm to Allluvnohate
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He didn't want to die.
How does anyone know that? On the Dr. Phil segment I watched, there was info that he had some sort of history of suicide attempts or tendencies and also that his father had committed suicide a year before this happened.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:50 pm to Gris Gris
quote:It's a negligence lawsuit. The damages will be different/greater if he's dead. The only reason wrongful death became a term art is because there needed to be a law as to who could bring an action for negligencr after someone died.
You can't file a wrongful death suit when someone is alive.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:50 pm to Gris Gris
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You can't file a wrongful death suit when someone is alive.
I know what that poster was getting at and I’d love to be the civil defense lawyer asking her under oath about her consortium claim when she herself was so public about wanting to pull the plug.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:51 pm to Gris Gris
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He isn't in a vegetative state. He is minimally consious.
He doesn't look that way in the videos. He looks like he has involuntary movements. Is there a physician who has given this opinion? On the Dr. Phil Youtube video, some patient's records were shown which said he was in a "persistent vegetative state". Are there records that state otherwise?
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Josh is very responsive and has a high chance at recovery
Where is this documented by medical personnel?
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You think this is a vegetative state? No specialist has evaluated Josh to determine what he is capable of since he left the hospital in 2018. He is in a nursing home only receiving care not treatment. The evil monster hasn't had him to any Dr to update his current condition. Free spect brain scans were offered at Dr Amen's clinic by Dr Phil but the evil monster wouldn't let Josh get the scans because she knows what it will show. He isn't brain dead like she says. She wants him dead so she can collect a million dollar wrongful death lawsuit and she isn't doing anything to help him improve or show what his antual current condition is. It is very likely that the courts will be ordering for Josh to be seen by a specialist to make a diagnosis
Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:52 pm to Mr Clean
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Keep posting
Why can't I post emojis? They come out as question marks. I put a heart and praying hands. Thank you
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:02 pm to Gris Gris
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In March of 2018 they filed for divorce. After his injury she canceled the divorce without his knowledge or consent.
"They" filed or "she" filed? Normally only one party sues the other for divorce.
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Not only is a conflict of interest for her to be his guardian because she has a pending wrongful death lawsuit and stands to gain financially in his death
You can't file a wrongful death suit when someone is alive.
You're right. It was her that filed not "they"
And you're right and wrong about the lawsuit. A person has has to be dead for grounds for the lawsuit which is what a judge told her in September 2020 when it was dismissed but she was given the opportunity to refile if anything changed. A month later she filed again and then started planning to starve him to death. He is the order from September 2020. And also a video of her claiming she doesn't have a wrongful death lawsuit when she does. You can see it on the court documents. She has a survival action and wrongful death lawsuit which the judge already told her the person has to have died for both of them.
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Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:04 pm to Gris Gris
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He didn't want to die.
How does anyone know that? On the Dr. Phil segment I watched, there was info that he had some sort of history of suicide attempts or tendencies and also that his father had committed suicide a year before this happened.
He made several phone calls during the couple hours he was in booking.
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