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re: Manhattan DA charges Trump's company, CFO with tax fraud

Posted on 7/2/21 at 7:07 pm to
Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 7:07 pm to
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Tell us. How many guys are in jails right now because, and only because, they lived in stop and frisk neighborhoods and got caught with a dime bag?


Thousands.


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1. Why are you okay with the politicization of the legal system?


You're not following. Justice in this country has always been political. After all, it is a political decision that we underfund tax enforcement for rich tax cheats so much that he was able to run this scam for so long. So why were you ok with it until yesterday?

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2. Why are you okay with the very obvious, very distinct justice systems - one for liberals and the other for conservatives. For a person concerned about the guy that has no criminal history until he was caught with a dimebag in a stop/frisk neighborhood because of disparate law enforcement in the past, it's pretty odd that you cheer on law enforcement/DOJ as they treat citizens differently today, depending on their politics.


Cheering? Now you're just making shite up. Re-read what I have written on this thread. I haven't come close to cheering anything. I noted that he committed garden variety income underreporting and underpayment and will probably pay a big fine or do a small bid. No big deal. I feel precisely the same way about this dude as I did about the NBA refs who went down for something similar and as I did when crooked Democrats commit crimes. I have said it is fascinating to see all of you guys in tears over some rich tax cheat all because he touched the hem of Trump's garment. Surely if the CFO of the Clinton foundation was paying himself off book, y'all would be equally forgiving...
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51152 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 10:49 pm to
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Thousands


No chance this is true.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
28124 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 6:18 am to
The only thing I cannot see Weisselberg and his lawyers explaining away is the tuition thing for his grandchildren but that is maybe a liability of 360,000.00. If the Trump Org reported that they are in the clear and Weisselberg pays up with a new tax bill with a penalty. The other stuff is pure harassment and selective prosecution against an unpopular person. Companies foot the bill for car leases all the time as a perk for key employees and in reality reporting that is extraordinarily rare for the individual as is the corporate apartment and it gets into a gray area inside of the tax code. The other stuff is all about the Keough contributions. If that money went in to a self funded retirement plan, what's the big deal? New York and the Feds just wait and gets it on the back end...of course New York wants to get you coming and going. They want tax the money on the front as regular income, then you place it in a Keough where it grows tax deferred and then New York wants an additional bite at the apple.

I can tell you that the feds would not care about the apartment. If the actual owner is the Trump Org , it is entitled to use it as it sees fit so long as nothing felonious is going on. If it is a long term crash pad for Weisselberg and his wife, so what? NYC wants to prove Weisselberg actually lived there instead of Long Island just to force payment in a punitive sense.

If I were his lawyers and Mazar the accounting firm, I would tell Vance, Game On!!! Let's take this to court. They don't really want to because it's a loser.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
75174 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 8:27 am to
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Thousands


Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18334 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 12:19 pm to
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Thousands

The vast majority of those imprisoned for possession are either repeat offenders or pled more serious charges down. It’s actually pretty rare for a first time possession offender to get appreciable sentences. And sentences for possession alone are pretty rare, too - in 2017, for example, only 92 of 20,000 federal drug-related sentences were for possession. And that’s not to mention the defendants history.

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You're not following. Justice in this country has always been political. After all, it is a political decision that we underfund tax enforcement for rich tax cheats so much that he was able to run this scam for so long. So why were you ok with it until yesterday?

Don’t play obtuse. You know what was meant by “political” - it has been mentioned in this thread a dozen times what is meant. So tell us about the history of American law enforcement/justice being political down party lines.

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Cheering? Now you're just making shite up. Re-read what I have written on this thread. I haven't come close to cheering anything. I noted that he committed garden variety income underreporting and underpayment and will probably pay a big fine or do a small bid. No big deal. I feel precisely the same way about this dude as I did about the NBA refs who went down for something similar and as I did when crooked Democrats commit crimes. I have said it is fascinating to see all of you guys in tears over some rich tax cheat all because he touched the hem of Trump's garment. Surely if the CFO of the Clinton foundation was paying himself off book, y'all would be equally forgiving...

You’re ignoring the point so let’s get right to it -

Are you troubled by the emerging dual justice system, one for conservatives and one for liberals?
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