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re: Morgan Stanley CEO to bankers: If you want NYC salary, you need to be in NYC

Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:12 am to
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:12 am to
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I also laugh at all these people that point out their one job they can do from home. Honestly that’s great guys, honestly good for you. But let’s pull your head out of your arse and realize the entire company can’t do that.

The funny part to me is that despite all of these “I am way more productive from home” comments that pop up, I’ve noticed that the most vocal WFH advocates at my company tend to be the least productive employees. The high performers tend to be the ones that are itching to get back to normal and go to the office voluntarily whenever they can.

I suspect it’s because the high performers are committed and enjoy their jobs, plus some amount of animosity towards those who have used WFH as a way to fly under the radar and half arse it.

It’s not universal and there are definitely some people I think very highly of who don’t want to go back to the office. It definitely varies by role. But the general trend I see is that the folks who say “I don’t need to be at the office to do my job” are disenchanted/jaded with their jobs in general or are the type who severely overestimate their capabilities/value/work ethic.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43478 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:16 am to
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But the general trend I see is that the folks who say “I don’t need to be at the office to do my job” are disenchanted/jaded with their jobs in general or are the type who severely overestimate their capabilities/value/work ethic.


Sounds like your company has a management problem.

My boss is one of the ones fighting the hardest to let me and the engineers WFH. Because we all love our jobs, and go above and beyond for them. I responded to an incident while on vacation in Belize. I spent all of New Years day dealing with another incident. I don't go anywhere, not even vacation, without my work laptop. Because I'm the only one that can do what I do when the shite hits the fan. The engineers have similar stories.

He's fighting to let us WFH at least three days a week to give back to us all the extra time we've worked on weekends, holidays, or late at night. The other staff do nothing but work 9-6, M-F. No weekends. No holidays. No late nights.



This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 8:18 am
Posted by Team Vote
DFW
Member since Aug 2014
7737 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:29 am to
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But the general trend I see is that the folks who say “I don’t need to be at the office to do my job” are disenchanted/jaded with their jobs in general or are the type who severely overestimate their capabilities/value/work ethic.

The majority of the people in my department who might say that would be lying their asses off, no two ways about it. For every person who is as productive at home, there are five going 50% capacity or worse. The outsourcing comment was spot on too. If you can do a job in NY from Nashville, someone from Delhi or Manila can do it for even less. Nobody is irreplaceable.

ETA my expectation is that majority WFH culture, like every other proposed huge paradigm shift we’ve had during covid, is going to frick us all with unintended consequences. Especially those advocating the loudest for it.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 10:37 am
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