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re: Desantis wins Royal Caribbean caves & won't require vaccine passports

Posted on 6/5/21 at 1:16 am to
Posted by westerntigerfan
Member since Oct 2012
887 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 1:16 am to
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Do you believe there are legitimate reasons for government intervention/regulation of private industry; and


Of course I do.

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is this scenario a legitimate reason for some of that government intervention'?


Obviously not, to all who have been paying attention.

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But reasonable minds can differ. 


I agree, but I used to argue with my liberal friends about issues like this. I never thought that in 2021 that I would be arguing with conservatives about what government's role in private businesses should be. I thought we were all on the same page on this.

To me it boils down to a few questions: Is cruise travel a constitutional right or an essential part of American life?

No

Is the Cruise line discriminating against anyone based on age, gender, race, or anything that is not under the control of the consumer?

No

Does the cruise line's policy cause any physical or mental harm to the consumers?

No

Does this policy give the Cruise line an unfair advantage in relation to its competitors?

No

Then let a private company do whatever they want.
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
30490 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 1:38 am to
I think we start to diverge from the same wavelength with the extensive and particular mention of the cruise line industry. It's a much broader situation than that.

I believe I know the answer, but I'm going to ask anyway: Do you "denounce" Desantis' EO altogether, specifically the EO that prescribes a fine of up to $5000/instance for ANY Florida business (or school or government) that requires proof of vaccination by an individual using or seeking to use their service or organization??

**On an important note, we've all overlooked the fact that there is no specific mention of any business/school/government being prohibited from announcing or posting a requirement of the vaccine for their business/school/government, only specifically mentions "request for proof of vaccination". That's a unique distinction.

ETA....and the downvote isn't mine, IMO that would discourage worthwhile discourse.
This post was edited on 6/5/21 at 1:45 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22103 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 6:48 am to
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Is the Cruise line discriminating against anyone based on age, gender, race, or anything that is not under the control of the consumer?



Why should that matter? You don’t have the right to go on a cruise. In a perfect world they could discriminate for any reason they liked, skin color and covid card included.

But we don’t live in a perfect world, and those aren’t the rules we’re forced to play by. DeSantis is playing by the rules that are in place, not the rules we wish were in place. I have no problem with it.
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