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re: Civil War Confederate veteran interview

Posted on 10/27/22 at 6:25 pm to
Posted by Sip_Tyga
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 6:25 pm to
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Sure, which is why I take the secession documents from South Carolina and other states at face value.


I’m not sure what your point is here, unless you’re talking about an exchange you’ve been having with someone else.

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Except one party did leave and wanted something the other party had when they did not have the leverage to do so.


Yes and they offered to pay for it. What was the US going to do with that fort in a foreign state by the way?

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But not in geopolitics, which is what is at issue. The party who has the power sets the rules. Fundamentally you agree, since that is also how relationships between larger and smaller states works, praxeologically speaking.


Praxeology is about what’s deducible from actions taken. I’m saying that by actions taken, we can deduce who was benefiting from union and who was being taken advantage of. As far as the North being more powerful I don’t disagree but might doesn’t make right.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 6:36 pm to
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I’m not sure what your point is here, unless you’re talking about an exchange you’ve been having with someone else


You want to make a moral claim about the South without a discussion of what their grievance in particular was.

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Yes and they offered to pay for it. What was the US going to do with that fort in a foreign state by the way?



Paying isn't good enough to give up a strategic position that could control shipping in and out of Charleston. If you want to be treated like a foreign actor, then the Union's actions were perfectly consistent with their overall FP objectives.

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Praxeology is about what’s deducible from actions taken. I’m saying that by actions taken, we can deduce who was benefiting from union and who was being taken advantage of


And I'm saying that in geopolitics, the relationships aren't equal. We can deduce several things from the South's actions too. It doesn't necessarily lead to a situation where the South's grievances are justified.

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As far as the North being more powerful I don’t disagree but might doesn’t make right


Either you are a kid or naive as frick. Might always makes right in geopolitics. There has never been any other way in human relations. Morality either applies to all actors evenly or it goes out the window with respect to geopolitics. If you want to make moral claims, thankfully the South lost thoroughly on those grounds too.
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