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Nazis and anti-gravity “UFOs”
Posted on 6/3/21 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 6/3/21 at 10:02 pm
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a36560537/hitler-nazi-anti-gravity-machine-ufo-die-glocke-conspiracy-video/
Hmmm...
This author needs to watch the news...
quote:
This Conspiracy Says Hitler Had a Secret Anti-Gravity UFO—and the U.S. Stole It
Watch this deep dive into the wild legend of “Die Glocke.”
BY KYLE MIZOKAMI JUN 1, 2021
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A new video from military historian Mark Felton, included below, explores the bell-shaped device that Adolf Hitler’s Schutzstaffel (SS) paramilitary organization purportedly developed. However, sci-fi writers and hoaxers may have actually concocted the machine, plying the postwar reputation of Nazi scientists being capable of almost any technological feat.
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Rumors of the device first appeared as Nazi sci-fi in the 1960 book Morning of the Magicians. Die Glocke also showed up in Igor Witkowski’s 2000 book Prawda o Wunderwaffe (The Truth About the Wonder Weapon)—and soon after, Nick Cook’s The Hunt for Zero Point—as a “glowing, rotating contraption” that possibly had “some kind of antigravitational effect,” or was even a “time machine” that was part of an “SS antigravity program” for the “Repulsine” flying saucer. Cook even floated the possibility that the notorious SS colonel Hans Kammler traded Die Glocke to the U.S. military in exchange for his freedom. (Kammler disappeared in the closing days of World War II and was never seen again.) While the Allies sent back home a trove of German superweapons during Project Paperclip, including jets and missiles, there’s no record of any version of Die Glocke ever being captured.
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Does any of this check out? It’s extraordinarily unlikely. For starters, there’s one obvious hole in the theory: If the U.S. really had access to anti-gravity technology, then where are the anti-gravity planes?
Hmmm...
This author needs to watch the news...
Posted on 6/3/21 at 10:08 pm to ThinePreparedAni
Prior thread:
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/the-deep-state-and-a-potential-breakaway-civilization-nazis-and-divide-and-conquer/89365315/
Some have asked for a summary of everything we post in other places
Below is the cleanest, best presented, summary of many of the things I have come across
The scope extends deep into history and beyond politics, but may allow to better understand why the world is the way it is (and why it makes little sense)
You may scoff at this, but let me remind you of recent events (which were/are glimpses beyond the veil):
-mass shooting in Las Vegas that essentially becomes a non-story within a few weeks
-death of a billionaire likely running a blackmail scheme of “white world” leaders
-the current pause of global civilization
Reframe:
Deep State (4th Reich)
UFOs (their tech)
Most of recent history/politics (all theater/control for their benefit). Control is via fear and is amplified via media.
Current events
This is our true opponent (and their agents who have infiltrated our world)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=IF0jxZ03fhk
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/the-deep-state-and-a-potential-breakaway-civilization-nazis-and-divide-and-conquer/89365315/
Some have asked for a summary of everything we post in other places
Below is the cleanest, best presented, summary of many of the things I have come across
The scope extends deep into history and beyond politics, but may allow to better understand why the world is the way it is (and why it makes little sense)
You may scoff at this, but let me remind you of recent events (which were/are glimpses beyond the veil):
-mass shooting in Las Vegas that essentially becomes a non-story within a few weeks
-death of a billionaire likely running a blackmail scheme of “white world” leaders
-the current pause of global civilization
Reframe:
Deep State (4th Reich)
UFOs (their tech)
Most of recent history/politics (all theater/control for their benefit). Control is via fear and is amplified via media.
Current events
This is our true opponent (and their agents who have infiltrated our world)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=IF0jxZ03fhk
quote:
The Breakaway Civilization with Jason Reza Jorjani
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Jason Reza Jorjani, PhD, is a philosopher and author of Prometheus and Atlas, World State of Emergency, Lovers of Sophia, Novel Folklore: The Blind Owl of Sadegh Hedayat, and Iranian Leviathan: A Monumental History of Mithra's Abode. Here he explores the hypothesis that many UFO sightings can be attributed to a non-governmental, human organization. He proposes that this organization developed extraordinary technology in the late nineteenth century, that it was associated with German nationalists, and that it received financial support from Americans. After WWII, he speculates that this network incorporated newer technologies that had been developed by the Nazi regime. He compares this network to the Spectre organization in Ian Fleming's James Bond novels.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 10:10 pm to ThinePreparedAni
https://www.wired.com/2011/02/ff-octopus-conspiracy/
quote:
ANDREW RICE 02.04.1102:15 PM
THE OCTOPUS CONSPIRACY: ONE WOMAN'S SEARCH FOR HER FATHER'S KILLER
quote:
Then one night in 2007, she idly typed her father's name into Google. She didn't find much, but as she clicked through the few results that came up, she found a book entitled The Octopus: Secret Government and the Death of Danny Casolaro. Based on the work of a fringe freelance journalist, the book argued that the 1981 triple slaying was wrapped up in an enormous plot involving arms dealing, private-security firms, and the upper echelons of the Reagan administration. Skeptical but intrigued, Begley dug deeper and discovered that over the years the murder case had taken on a curious life of its own, preserved on obscure websites and nurtured by a grassroots community of obsessives. To these conspiracy theorists, Boger's killing was the work of a secret syndicate that they called the Octopus, because its tangled tentacles supposedly reached into some of the most powerful organizations in the world.
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When Begley stumbled upon The Octopus, though, she found a more nefarious explanation: Nichols proposed to use the tribe's sovereign status to build an arms factory on the reservation and ship weapons to Central American rebel groups like the Contras. Drawing heavily on a San Francisco Chronicle investigation, the book reported that he had struck a partnership arrangement with Wackenhut, a private-security firm with alleged ties to the CIA and Republican Party.
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That strange story was widely reported in the early 1990s. But since then, others had embroidered those findings with more bizarre information, speculation, and extrapolations. Before long, Begley was tearing through websites and bulletin boards, finding herself drawn into the conspiracy. Much of what she found traced back to Danny Casolaro, the freelance journalist who had been the first to write about a shadowy "international cabal" of covert operatives he dubbed the Octopus. Casolaro tied the Cabazon tribe's arms company to a Reagan crony, who figured in the so-called October Surprise of 1980 and was connected to a computer program called Promis, which was supposedly used for spying. In 1991, the writer was found dead in the bathtub at a West Virginia hotel, his wrists slashed. Authorities deemed the death a suicide, but others presumed Casolaro was killed because he knew too much.
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There were many competing interpretations of the Octopus—Seymour was particularly interested in the alleged role of entertainment company MCA—and they were infinitely adaptable, able to accommodate the Patriot Act or the financial crisis. Devotees found and fought one another on sites like Above Top Secret, conspiracy clearinghouses that host every conceivable thread of discussion. Begley forged an alliance with a retired FBI agent who was exploring a link between the Octopus and Satanic cults. She did battle with a prominent UFO enthusiast who thought the Octopus was hiding the government's collaboration with a colonizing alien force.
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Finally, the world seemed to be listening. "Actually, this might be better," Begley says, sounding curiously invigorated. Though this experience has been draining, it has given her a sense of purpose, of a momentous cause. Hughes might be free, heading back to Honduras, but in a way, defeat offered a perverse validation. The Octopus wouldn't be the enemy she thought it was if it gave up its secrets so easily. "You're going to find out real soon," Begley says, "that the world isn't what you think it is."
Hail hydra...
Also referencing Shiva
Posted on 6/3/21 at 10:14 pm to ThinePreparedAni
I become more convinced everyday that the shitlib mantra about right wing people being conspiracy theorists is true. As long as the theory means they don’t have to do anything, they’ll believe it and the dumber the better.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 10:26 pm to ThinePreparedAni
quote:
e proposes that this organization developed extraordinary technology in the late nineteenth century, that it was associated with German nationalists, and that it received financial support from Americans. After WWII, he speculates that this network incorporated newer technologies that had been developed by the Nazi regime. H
Sounds like I gotta get back in shape to wear my Captain American uniform. I can still kick plenty of Nazi/deep state arse without it, but it's not as cook in worn out boxers, a dirty arse t-shirt and Razorback house shoes.
Or maybe it is?
Posted on 6/3/21 at 10:29 pm to PickupAutist
You sound asleep bro. Go to bed.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 10:41 pm to ThinePreparedAni
Is this the new ToET?
Posted on 6/3/21 at 10:42 pm to ThinePreparedAni
want to learn about the bell, the hinge, and the Project Riese
The Last Nazi Secret - Youtube must watch if you are into this.
The Last Nazi Secret - Youtube must watch if you are into this.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 10:44 pm to ThinePreparedAni
So it's nazi tech now?
quote:based in Florida. Their primary clients are prisons, which they supply with security systems as well as beds, food trays and other minor things. That's why they're in bed with politicians. Gotta keep those contracts coming.
Wackenhut, a private-security firm
Posted on 6/3/21 at 10:53 pm to ThinePreparedAni
I don’t post often but I have always followed yours with interest. I have a question for you, it’s one that’s puzzled me since I’ve seen the Nazis tossed about as boogeymen. What about this modern world has the fingerprints of a latent Nazi shadow government on it? The theory is plausible with regards to paperclip, but does the modern world look like one Hitler would approve of? If the goal was the ultimate destruction and humiliation of their enemies then that would make sense, but why is Germany at the forefront of multiculti? The dots don’t connect for me, but I would love for someone to connect them
Posted on 6/3/21 at 10:55 pm to PickupAutist
conspiracy theories just mean. - will be confirmed true in 6 months / we are smart enough to be early
Why do you think conservatives are rich - we are the smartest among us
Why do you think conservatives are rich - we are the smartest among us
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 6/3/21 at 10:57 pm to Wolfgang Wolfhausen
If Germany were insulated from this international psychosis in the way that israel seems to be it would hold more water to me. But they are not. And I find it very hard to believe that any hardline Nazis would willingly lay their people upon the sacrificial altar of miscegenation. That isn’t in their makeup. Their enemies, however? Par for the course. This is why I have a hard time swallowing the Nazi theories. If the Germans had invented time travel the world would not look anything like it does.
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 6/3/21 at 11:01 pm to Wolfgang Wolfhausen
quote:
If Germany were insulated from this international psychosis in the way that israel seems to be it would hold more water to me. But they are not. And I find it very hard to believe that any hardline Nazis would willingly lay their people upon the sacrificial altar of miscegenation. That isn’t in their makeup. Their enemies, however? Par for the course. This is why I have a hard time swallowing the Nazi theories. If the Germans had invented time travel the world would not look anything like it does.
1 its not about time travel it was a nuclear program
2 they would rather see Germany destroyed than conform
Posted on 6/3/21 at 11:06 pm to ninthward
Die Glocke has most certainly been referenced in regards to time travel. My great grandfather was in the SS, he said it was a prevalent rumor in his unit at the war’s end. Not much is definitively known about the chief of the project, Hans Kammler. Seriously, as someone who knew a literal dyed in the wool Nazi, I cannot imagine any of them placing anything above Germany’s ultimate victory. It was religious with those guys, I’m highly skeptical of direct Nazi involvement with this shite. That their tech could have been hijacked by the people who won the war seems much more plausible to me
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 6/3/21 at 11:08 pm to Wolfgang Wolfhausen
really what SS division was he in?
Posted on 6/3/21 at 11:12 pm to ninthward
I’m actually not kidding haha I have an interesting family history, he was in Charlemagne. 33rd Division. They were made up mostly of French collaborators. I have his PPK and his dagger, along with an extremely valuable Totemkopf ring that’s pretty rare.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 11:14 pm to Wolfgang Wolfhausen
I know what the Charlarmege division was, so he was one of the last soldiers in Berlin, one of 30 to make it out? ok
Posted on 6/3/21 at 11:14 pm to Wolfgang Wolfhausen
The issuance of said ring is probably more than enough to implicate him in some war crime or other, it stays in the safe lol
Posted on 6/3/21 at 11:17 pm to ninthward
The entire division was not engaged at the final stand in the bunker, as I’m sure you can imagine there were a great deal more than 30 in the division and their fate varied widely at the end of the war. What on earth could I possibly have to gain by admitting I’m descended from a potential war criminal haha I don’t see the reason for your skepticism
Posted on 6/3/21 at 11:23 pm to Wolfgang Wolfhausen
no 30 or less made it out of Berlin, only 26% of rings were unaccounted for 60%+ were returned to Himmler himself. Yes, I am skeptical of anyone saying they are from the SS, not to mention how he was able to keep personal effects after being captured? he had to have been turned over to the allies because he certainly was not captured by the Russians or he would have been killed. Not saying I don't believe you it could be an interesting story yet there is some rare air you're dealing with here.
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 11:27 pm
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