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Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:20 am to
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
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Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:20 am to
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I'm here, myself, but I think it is about the songs.

Player for player -

Cornell = Cornell
Thayil > Morello
Shepard < Commerford (but this difference is pretty slight)
Cameron = Wilk

So, on paper, Soundgarden ought to be better, overall. The chemistry in Audioslave, especially that first album, was magic and that's probably the difference.
Uh, speaking as an actual bassist, Ben Shepard's bass lines are much more intricate and nuanced than any of Tim's. However Tim is great about finding the right groove and creating signature bass riffs, and is a true master of tone. But as far as individual chops, at least as far as what's displayed in their songs, Ben is much, much, much better than Tim man. Give Jesus Christ Pose a run through and see if that doesn't change your mind.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/1/21 at 7:19 am to
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Uh, speaking as an actual bassist, Ben Shepard's bass lines are much more intricate and nuanced than any of Tim's. However Tim is great about finding the right groove and creating signature bass riffs, and is a true master of tone.


I almost made this a push as well. What I'll concede is that I haven't digested the entire breadth of Soundgarden the way I have Audioslave and, to a lesser degree, RATM. I was a drummer, briefly, a lifetime ago and tend to gravitate to the rhythm section (I listened to Tool for years without paying much attention to Adam or Maynard - just as an example).

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Give Jesus Christ Pose a run through and see if that doesn't change your mind.



I just don't like the song. I never liked it. I'm not going to like it. I'll take your word for it and revise my rankings to a "push" and make Tom "The Noisemaker" Morello really feel like shite.
This post was edited on 5/1/21 at 10:07 am
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33749 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 10:17 am to
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Uh, speaking as an actual bassist, Ben Shepard's bass lines are much more intricate and nuanced than any of Tim's. However Tim is great about finding the right groove and creating signature bass riffs, and is a true master of tone. But as far as individual chops, at least as far as what's displayed in their songs, Ben is much, much, much better than Tim man. Give Jesus Christ Pose a run through and see if that doesn't change your mind.
I can settle this:

Soundgarden is less than the sum of its parts. I imagine this mainly comes down to songwriting - just not that good.

Audioslave is also less than the sum of its parts. I remember seeing the announcement of a supergroup composed of half RATM and half Soundgarden...and the big, hot, hard-hitting 1st single was...Like a Stone...a plodding, low-energy dud.

So, the correct unpopular opinion is that both of these are decent but not great. You're welcome.
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