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re: Johnson and Johnson Vaccine Pause

Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:50 am to
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
11024 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:50 am to
J&J vaccine doesn't have problems. At least not blood clotting problems.

6 women out of 7 million doses equates to .00009% of vaccines administered possibly gave blood clots.

The percentage of people in the US that get blood clots each year with no identifying cause is roughly .009%. 900,000 people out of about 350 million people.

60,000 of those may die and the medical community can not explain it.

So 6 women get blood clots and 1 dies and they know the J&J vaccine is to blame.

If it smells like bullshite it usually is.




Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
71446 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:54 am to
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6 women out of 7 million doses equates to .00009% of vaccines administered possibly gave blood clots.



And no men, and no women over 50, so it would make more sense to continue administering to those groups while investigating what the six adverse reactions had in common.

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19760 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:56 am to
quote:

J&J vaccine doesn't have problems. At least not blood clotting problems.

6 women out of 7 million doses equates to .00009% of vaccines administered possibly gave blood clots.

The percentage of people in the US that get blood clots each year with no identifying cause is roughly .009%. 900,000 people out of about 350 million people.

60,000 of those may die and the medical community can not explain it.

So 6 women get blood clots and 1 dies and they know the J&J vaccine is to blame.

If it smells like bull shite it usually is.


And it was only women at a lower rate than what is normal.

One OB/GYN doc speculated that they were also taking birth control pills... Time will tell.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17063 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:39 am to
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The percentage of people in the US that get blood clots each year with no identifying cause is roughly .009%. 900,000 people out of about 350 million people.


I would agree that people don't understand basic statistics and coincidence. A lot of uncritical people see any correlation as a cause and effect relationship.

However, this is not any old embolism, so the numbers you cite are moot. In this case, we are seeing an extremely rare type of clot called Cerebral Venous Sinus Thrombosis (CVST). Johns Hopkins University's website estimates it to occur in about 5 out of one million individuals yearly. (I think I heard the FDA guy on TV say it's about 15-30 out of a million). Either way, it's very, very rare.

But that's not all. CVST is a clot, but these patients are also seeing thrombocytopenia (very low platelet counts). So you have clotting and later the platelets drop extremely low and they bleed into their brains. This is sometimes seen in people who receive the drug heparin.

Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

J&J vaccine doesn't have problems. At least not blood clotting problems.

6 women out of 7 million doses equates to .00009% of vaccines administered possibly gave blood clots.

The percentage of people in the US that get blood clots each year with no identifying cause is roughly .009%. 900,000 people out of about 350 million people.

60,000 of those may die and the medical community can not explain it.

So 6 women get blood clots and 1 dies and they know the J&J vaccine is to blame.

If it smells like bull shite it usually is.


Forcing people to get a vaccine is BS. Let's start from there.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9478 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 1:12 pm to
Not saying you're wrong that is not that many people but it's more than. There were at least 200 in the UK alone.

Carry on but use facts, please.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27972 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 1:23 pm to
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6 women out of 7 million doses

Lulz that you believe that

Someone noted on here that a NCAA ref passed out during a game due to a blood clot. You know he was required to be vaccinated to work those games. You also know that his age bracket didnt get cleared for a vaccine then wait 2 weeks for the second dose in time to work the tournament. You have to assume he got the one shot vaccine

So you now have to admit that there are more than 6 people who have blood clot issues. Way more. We know for a fact that there were more people "reported" in Norway, with some eventually dying from the vaccine

LINK
Posted by Tigerroc
Member since Jun 2017
259 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:59 pm to
Do you honestly believe only 6 women died from the
JnJ vaccine? You’re a ding dong for believing anything gov tells you.
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