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re: Gary Player getting cancelled

Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by COTiger
Colorado
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:26 pm to
Put on your rain suit. You're pissing into a 80 mph head wind.
Posted by LightMerchant
Member since Apr 2021
221 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:27 pm to
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You clearly know nothing about Player, which is fine, but the dude is an arse hole.




I am familiar with his history. I know about his friendship with Charlie Sifford, I know about Player wearing golf pants with one white leg and one black leg to show his opposition to Apartheid and racism, and I have read his book from his younger days where he endorsed Apartheid, I know that Player was the first to have a black caddy in the U.S.Open, I know about Player being branded a “traitor to his race” and receiving death threats for his push to have Elder included in the S.A. Open.

The player I found to be an arse hole after working with him was Payne Stewart. Phil Mickleson as well. You familiar with “FIGJAM”?
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 9:43 pm
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62423 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:28 pm to
quote:

Same as with Nicklaus and Player.


Nicklaus won 6 Masters
Player won 3 Masters

quote:

Elder played in The Masters in ‘75, ‘77, ‘78, ‘80, & ‘81.


How many did he win?
Posted by COTiger
Colorado
Member since Dec 2007
16844 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:30 pm to
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I do work for the PGA and The Golf Channel.


What kind of work? I understand if you choose not to answer.
Posted by COTiger
Colorado
Member since Dec 2007
16844 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:32 pm to
Where does it say that you have to be a former Master's winner to be a honorary starter?
Posted by LightMerchant
Member since Apr 2021
221 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:37 pm to
I demonstrate in detail where you are wrong and all you have to say for yourself is: “I don’t care.”


Stupidly summing up a person by one period in their life, ignoring the culture into which they were born, and ignoring / flippantly dismissing the evolution and personal growth of the individual is ignorant and lame. You look at the individual in their totality and in fairness. You don’t ignore all the things Player has done in opposition to racism and define him by things he said as a younger man.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62423 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:40 pm to
The original point made earlier in this thread was that Augusta National hasn’t asked Lee to be an honorary starter at any point since his career ended long who, but yet they choose this year to do so.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 9:41 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:41 pm to
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You look at the individual in their totality and in fairness.


I don't necessarily disagree with you, let's look at that scummy display from about 12 hours ago.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
15258 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:47 pm to
Again, why didn’t they invite him to be an honorary starter when he could still swing a golf club?

I have no problem with the man or any of his achievements. I just find the timing of all this curious.
Posted by COTiger
Colorado
Member since Dec 2007
16844 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:48 pm to
I don't think the green jackets care what you or anyone else thinks about who the honorary starters are and when and how they are chosen. That's the facts. Deal with them.
Posted by LightMerchant
Member since Apr 2021
221 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:49 pm to
You wanna hate, have at it.

I’m not going to entertain your laundry list of items you think justify your hating an individual who you’ve never met.

The irony here is that the topic starter was about irrational eagerness to hate, not really about Player. And you dumbly waltzed right in to provide a perfect example of that in yourself.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:51 pm to
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I’m not going to entertain your laundry list of items you think justify your hating an individual who you’ve never met.


I don't want him to die, I just think he's a self centered arse hole with no awareness based on his numerous actions over many, many years.
Posted by LightMerchant
Member since Apr 2021
221 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:51 pm to
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scummy display


Okay, I’ll bite. What specifically did you find “scummy”?
Posted by Choupique19
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Member since Sep 2005
62423 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:52 pm to
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Deal with them.


I’m not angered. I’m just able to acknowledge the virtue signaling Augusta National is doing this year.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:53 pm to
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Okay, I’ll bite. What specifically did you find “scummy”?



Trying to ambush market golf balls with his fraudster son and make the moment all about himself.
Posted by LightMerchant
Member since Apr 2021
221 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:55 pm to
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I just think he's a self centered arse hole with no awareness based on his numerous actions over many, many years.


Should we line up all the people who think the exact same thing about you?

Tell you what, I’ll use my connections to see to it that Mr.Player is informed that “Mingo” disapproves of him. I hope he will be able to recover from that news.
Posted by COTiger
Colorado
Member since Dec 2007
16844 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:56 pm to
So what's the signaling? The fact that the green jackets chose to honor a black golfer by naming him as a honorary starter?
Posted by LightMerchant
Member since Apr 2021
221 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:57 pm to
You are very melodramatic.

What they used to call “womanly”.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62423 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:58 pm to
Was Gary Player scummy when at the height of apartheid in South Africa he fought for and was able to get Lee Elder admitted into tournaments in South Africa?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
15258 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:58 pm to
Really?
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