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re: Redraft 2020
Posted on 3/20/21 at 3:12 pm to Bronc
Posted on 3/20/21 at 3:12 pm to Bronc
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Yes because Shaq-like interior players that don’t rely on refs but have point guard skills are so hard to imagine working in the playoffs....
But the 2020s NBA is a completely different NBA compared to the 2000s NBA of Shaq's era.
The last old-fashioned FP pivot like Shaq (thus without reliable shooting off the racket) to go to the nba final was Howard and that was 12 years ago now...
Now a pivot must defend well against guards since there is much more pick and rolls compared to before and Shaq was bad to do it...
Shaq was bad at FT (52,7% in career)...
Today, all the dominant pivots like Embiid (80,4 FT% in career and 85% this season), Jokic (83% in career and 86% this season), Adebayo (83% this season) are good at FT.
Now all the dominant pivots are good at least at both free throw and mid-range shooting, Shaq wasn't...
So not sure Shaq would finish the matches at this current nba. Shaq wouldn't be suited to the current nba...
Zion has no reliable mid-range and free throw shooting even if he has progressed in these aspects.
He will have to have a reliable shooting if he wants to succeed in PO.
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And the more I think on it, and taking your premise, why would I not rather have DeAndre Hunter in a playoff series than Barrett? A guy that can guard 1-5, is a more efficient shooter, and despite much lower usage averages the same points and FTA’s as Barrett. Essentially the same rebounds and assists. Has a 64% TS vs Barrett paltry 52%? Seems to me that given neither is qualified to be the first option on a playoff team, I would want the model role player wing vs the inefficient guy that wants the ball in his hands.
Yes why not, put Hunter 1 in 2019 draft isn't bad.
This post was edited on 3/20/21 at 3:34 pm
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Posted on 3/20/21 at 3:50 pm to nicj4
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So not sure Shaq would finish the matches at this current nba. Shaq wouldn't be suited to the current nba...
Posted on 3/20/21 at 4:09 pm to nicj4
This is one the dumbest, if not THE dumbest thread I have seen in ages on not only Pels Talk, but all of TD, and that is REALLY saying something.
Each post you make, eliminates more and more doubt that you were dropped on your head as a child. Get checked out.
RJ will never be uttered in the same breath as Zion 10 years from now, unless you're talking about their Duke careers or the fact they were drafted the same year.
Ja and Zion are both infinitely more talented and valuable than RJ. So again...
Each post you make, eliminates more and more doubt that you were dropped on your head as a child. Get checked out.
RJ will never be uttered in the same breath as Zion 10 years from now, unless you're talking about their Duke careers or the fact they were drafted the same year.
Ja and Zion are both infinitely more talented and valuable than RJ. So again...
Posted on 3/20/21 at 4:20 pm to nicj4
If you are interpreting what I am saying or you yourself think that Zion is a one for one for Shaq I have to ask how many Pels games you’ve actually watched?
Zion is Shaq-like in his ability to dominate the interior beyond what the next closest person in the league can do in their respective era, and in that there is no one like him physically in the league. His combo of athleticism and strength make him unguardable one on one. His domination in the interior comes with a Lebron like athleticism and point guard skillset that allows him to facilitate your offense and attack you off the dribble. Shaq was dominating in a completely different way. You are probably right that Shaq would struggle more in today’s game, but Zion is in this era and is dominating.
RJ’s biggest problem is that he is a pretty empty stats guy. 23% usage to get 17 points on 52% true shooting. That’s a guy that can’t be your lead option but isn’t an ideal second or third option either because of the lack of efficiency and reliability. That’s why if I am only getting one of the two players for 5-7 years, as is the new reality for small markets, I’m probably taking Hunter over him. But Hunter isn’t the best in that draft class either lol. He’s a more efficient version of the archetype Barret currently is. But Zion and Morant are franchise cornerstones that can be your best player on a championship squad.
RJ has a ways to go before he can claim something like that, and it’s questionable whether he ever will
Zion is Shaq-like in his ability to dominate the interior beyond what the next closest person in the league can do in their respective era, and in that there is no one like him physically in the league. His combo of athleticism and strength make him unguardable one on one. His domination in the interior comes with a Lebron like athleticism and point guard skillset that allows him to facilitate your offense and attack you off the dribble. Shaq was dominating in a completely different way. You are probably right that Shaq would struggle more in today’s game, but Zion is in this era and is dominating.
RJ’s biggest problem is that he is a pretty empty stats guy. 23% usage to get 17 points on 52% true shooting. That’s a guy that can’t be your lead option but isn’t an ideal second or third option either because of the lack of efficiency and reliability. That’s why if I am only getting one of the two players for 5-7 years, as is the new reality for small markets, I’m probably taking Hunter over him. But Hunter isn’t the best in that draft class either lol. He’s a more efficient version of the archetype Barret currently is. But Zion and Morant are franchise cornerstones that can be your best player on a championship squad.
RJ has a ways to go before he can claim something like that, and it’s questionable whether he ever will
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