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re: Draft Discussion
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:06 am to 3PieceSpicy
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:06 am to 3PieceSpicy
Wasserman released a post-NCAA Tourney top 50 big board last night: LINK
He's not the only one who I've seen move Josh Giddey way up their board since he returned from injury these last couple of weeks.
I'd be pretty nervous about taking Kispert as a lottery pick. Yes, we need shooting in the worst way and he's a good fit on that end. But I really worry about his fit on defense because there's no hiding him with the guys we have. If we are drafting for fit, I'd rather Davion Mitchell in our projected range who isn't quite as good of a shooter, but he can still knock it down at a good clip AND give you elite perimeter defense and get to the paint. Or even Jared Butler a little later in the first round -- who again, is also a good C&S guy AND can be a plus guy on the defensive end.
Basically I would keep going for the higher upside guys where we are slated to pick near the end of the lottery right now with Mitchell being my only exception as a "fit" pick. A lot will change between now and draft day as far as what the board will look like, but I'd prefer more upside guys like Moody, Wagner, Barnes, Ziaire, Kai, and maybe Giddey over Kispert right now.
He's not the only one who I've seen move Josh Giddey way up their board since he returned from injury these last couple of weeks.
I'd be pretty nervous about taking Kispert as a lottery pick. Yes, we need shooting in the worst way and he's a good fit on that end. But I really worry about his fit on defense because there's no hiding him with the guys we have. If we are drafting for fit, I'd rather Davion Mitchell in our projected range who isn't quite as good of a shooter, but he can still knock it down at a good clip AND give you elite perimeter defense and get to the paint. Or even Jared Butler a little later in the first round -- who again, is also a good C&S guy AND can be a plus guy on the defensive end.
Basically I would keep going for the higher upside guys where we are slated to pick near the end of the lottery right now with Mitchell being my only exception as a "fit" pick. A lot will change between now and draft day as far as what the board will look like, but I'd prefer more upside guys like Moody, Wagner, Barnes, Ziaire, Kai, and maybe Giddey over Kispert right now.
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Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:23 am to kadillak
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I'd prefer more upside guys like Moody, Wagner, Barnes, Ziaire, Kai, and maybe Giddey over Kispert right now.
kispert lost millions yesterday.
I'd use a 2nd on him.
hes definitely off my lottery pick guesswork.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:41 am to kadillak
unless we win the lottery to move into the top 4, our pick will be anywhere from 8-13. If BI/Zion/Lonzo stay healthy the rest of the season, i would not be surprised if we finish around 12.
I like Davion Mitchell a lot.
I'd still pick Moody before Mitchell if he's available.
Kuminga, Keon Johnson, Scottie Barnes, and Jalen Johnson are all guys i absolutely do not want to pick. Way too much risks with them, and i don't even know what the big reward with them even is. Kai Jones, Zaire Williams are in that same category to me as well. I'm not drafting a guy that has "potential" but a ton of holes in his game, especially important ones, like shooting.
As someone else said, i'd rather Doug McDermott than draft Corey Kispert. I wouldn't be upset with Wagner if Moody and Mitchell are off the board.
If Shariffe Cooper was a little bit bigger, or if he ends up having a really long wingspan at the measurements, i think he'll end up being a quality NBA player.
I like Davion Mitchell a lot.
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Not many 22-year-old guards who are drafted approach star status. Devonte' Graham and Malcolm Brogdon feel like the closest in recent years, and Fred VanVleet (undrafted) is there, too. But Mitchell's breakout feels real.
Forget the stats. The eye test sees elite-level explosion, sharp dribble moves to separate and shooting skills off the catch or dribble. He makes true point guard passing reads, and there is no question about his defensive effectiveness and its potential to translate given his strong frame, quickness and intensity.
I'm not sold that Mitchell is the next Donovan Mitchell. But it's become too obvious that he's an NBA player with a valuable archetype as a three-and-D guard at baseline with upside to generate offense out of isolation and ball-screen situations. Mitchell is a legitimate can't-lose pick even if the upside never kicks in.
I'd still pick Moody before Mitchell if he's available.
Kuminga, Keon Johnson, Scottie Barnes, and Jalen Johnson are all guys i absolutely do not want to pick. Way too much risks with them, and i don't even know what the big reward with them even is. Kai Jones, Zaire Williams are in that same category to me as well. I'm not drafting a guy that has "potential" but a ton of holes in his game, especially important ones, like shooting.
As someone else said, i'd rather Doug McDermott than draft Corey Kispert. I wouldn't be upset with Wagner if Moody and Mitchell are off the board.
If Shariffe Cooper was a little bit bigger, or if he ends up having a really long wingspan at the measurements, i think he'll end up being a quality NBA player.
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