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Senate will call Witnesses- but haven’t decided how many
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:31 am
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:31 am
I happened to be picking up my grocery order during the argument on this issue in the Senate so I was listening - with some interruption.
To summarize bc this shite happened so fast and some missed, Baskin moved to call witnesses in his show trial bc of the “surprise” witness who is a member of the House of F#cking Representatives who was constrained by unforseen forces from presenting her information and contemporaraneous notes taken during a massive insurrection
while voting to move forward with this idiotic show trial.
Today, after Baskin the Insufferable spit all over the
microphone and asked for just one witness via Zoom, Trump’s lawyer (Van Der Veer), got up and said -(Im paraphrasing) that this is stupid. You are now adding random shite to your articles of impeachment, and you did it bc you realized how bad you screwed up your case by not doing any actual investigation. He then said, if you want witnesses, I’m fine with that - but the way this actually works in the real world is this shite won’t be limited to one witness on Zoom. We’ll subpoena hundreds of witnesses, including Nancy Pelosi and Kamala Harris to my office in “Phillydelphia” (that’s a phonetic spelling of how he pronounced it).
The Democrat assholes started laughing. Whereupon Van Der Veer chastised them, told them it wasn’t funny and he showed them the respect not to laugh at them. That they disregarded the entire constitution and all kinds of other good shite that made me want to run thru a wall.
Then, they took a vote on whether to have witnesses. Most Rs Voted No, including Cassidy and Turtle. The usual RINOs voted with the DeMarxits.
Ms. Lindsey changed his vote from no to yes at the last minute and then Ron Johnson began trying to clarify whether there was a limit on the number of witnesses.
Leahy of the Living Dead, refused to allow a clarification. The motion to call “at least one” witness has passed. Apparently the exact number of witnesses will be determined by subsequent votes.
FTR: I think they should have witnesses - but there shouldn’t be some arbitrary limit of the one fricking Democrat Congresswoman Leftists decided will help them providing self serving testimony. I do not see how the Rs in the senate can stop this from happening and call actual witnesses instead of just Democrat Congresspeople. I mean this is communist level shite. The prosecutor is also a witness. Give me a fricking break.
Trump’s lawyers have to take the constitutionality of this matter to a real court. Not sure how they get there- but it is clear that the courts do have the power of reviewing whether an action of the legislature is constitutional. See: Marbury v. Madison
See also: [lhttps://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/senate-votes-to-subpoena-witness-for-trump-impeachment-trial_3695532.html [/link]
To summarize bc this shite happened so fast and some missed, Baskin moved to call witnesses in his show trial bc of the “surprise” witness who is a member of the House of F#cking Representatives who was constrained by unforseen forces from presenting her information and contemporaraneous notes taken during a massive insurrection
Today, after Baskin the Insufferable spit all over the
microphone and asked for just one witness via Zoom, Trump’s lawyer (Van Der Veer), got up and said -(Im paraphrasing) that this is stupid. You are now adding random shite to your articles of impeachment, and you did it bc you realized how bad you screwed up your case by not doing any actual investigation. He then said, if you want witnesses, I’m fine with that - but the way this actually works in the real world is this shite won’t be limited to one witness on Zoom. We’ll subpoena hundreds of witnesses, including Nancy Pelosi and Kamala Harris to my office in “Phillydelphia” (that’s a phonetic spelling of how he pronounced it).
The Democrat assholes started laughing. Whereupon Van Der Veer chastised them, told them it wasn’t funny and he showed them the respect not to laugh at them. That they disregarded the entire constitution and all kinds of other good shite that made me want to run thru a wall.
Then, they took a vote on whether to have witnesses. Most Rs Voted No, including Cassidy and Turtle. The usual RINOs voted with the DeMarxits.
Ms. Lindsey changed his vote from no to yes at the last minute and then Ron Johnson began trying to clarify whether there was a limit on the number of witnesses.
Leahy of the Living Dead, refused to allow a clarification. The motion to call “at least one” witness has passed. Apparently the exact number of witnesses will be determined by subsequent votes.
FTR: I think they should have witnesses - but there shouldn’t be some arbitrary limit of the one fricking Democrat Congresswoman Leftists decided will help them providing self serving testimony. I do not see how the Rs in the senate can stop this from happening and call actual witnesses instead of just Democrat Congresspeople. I mean this is communist level shite. The prosecutor is also a witness. Give me a fricking break.
Trump’s lawyers have to take the constitutionality of this matter to a real court. Not sure how they get there- but it is clear that the courts do have the power of reviewing whether an action of the legislature is constitutional. See: Marbury v. Madison
See also: [lhttps://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/senate-votes-to-subpoena-witness-for-trump-impeachment-trial_3695532.html [/link]
This post was edited on 2/13/21 at 10:36 am
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:31 am to Wednesday
Call the 85 million witnesses who voted for TRUMP
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:36 am to Wednesday
We know how this will go. One or two witnesses that are "damaging" to Trump. Nothing else. The Democrats have a track record.
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:37 am to Wednesday
Van Der Veen is a MF baller. Here was his statement after being mocked for asking to depo witnesses at his office in Philly.
I haven't laughed at any of you and there's nothing laughable here. You mentioned my client coming in and testifying, that is not the way it is done. If you have should have put the subpoena down. I'll slap subpoenas on a good number of people if witnesses are what are required get their case back in order.
Which is failed miserably for four reasons, there is no jurisdiction here. There is no due process here, to have completely violated and ignored on the constitution, they have trampled on it that people have no respect for its. If this is about nothing else, it has to be about the respect of our country, our constitution and all the people that make it up. I asked when voting on this witness matter, and to be clear, this may be the time to do it but again, everybody needs to know, not so much into it all, the depth at it neither.
But there was a stipulation, they felt pretty good after day two until the case was tested on day three. Now is the time to end this, now is the time to hear closing arguments. now is the time to vote your conscience. Thank you.
I haven't laughed at any of you and there's nothing laughable here. You mentioned my client coming in and testifying, that is not the way it is done. If you have should have put the subpoena down. I'll slap subpoenas on a good number of people if witnesses are what are required get their case back in order.
Which is failed miserably for four reasons, there is no jurisdiction here. There is no due process here, to have completely violated and ignored on the constitution, they have trampled on it that people have no respect for its. If this is about nothing else, it has to be about the respect of our country, our constitution and all the people that make it up. I asked when voting on this witness matter, and to be clear, this may be the time to do it but again, everybody needs to know, not so much into it all, the depth at it neither.
But there was a stipulation, they felt pretty good after day two until the case was tested on day three. Now is the time to end this, now is the time to hear closing arguments. now is the time to vote your conscience. Thank you.
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:40 am to Wednesday
If I understand correctly by the prosecution calling just one witness that opens the door for the defense to call ever how many they see fit? Is this a correct statement?
If so the dims have just one CF on top of another CF and possibly adding a third CF to this. Ain't it cool
If so the dims have just one CF on top of another CF and possibly adding a third CF to this. Ain't it cool
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:40 am to TaylorMade_14
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Van Der Veen is a MF baller.
Bears repeating
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:41 am to Barneyrb
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If I understand correctly by the prosecution calling just one witness that opens the door for the defense to call ever how many they see fit? Is this a correct statement?
In a normal proceeding. This isn’t normal, and I expect a rule change of some sort.
This post was edited on 2/13/21 at 10:42 am
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:44 am to Barneyrb
That’s how it would work if this were a real trial, and and not an unconstitutional sham of a show trial with no due process where the “prosecution”
makes up the rules as it goes along.
Democrats will attempt (and probably successfully bc they are over emotional tyrannical Marxist morons with no understanding of the Constitution), to limit of not eliminate Trump’s ability to call witnesses by “voting” on the procedure. They did the same thing in Sham Peach Mint, I - except Democrats only called their self serving witnesses to nothing in the House.
Democrats will attempt (and probably successfully bc they are over emotional tyrannical Marxist morons with no understanding of the Constitution), to limit of not eliminate Trump’s ability to call witnesses by “voting” on the procedure. They did the same thing in Sham Peach Mint, I - except Democrats only called their self serving witnesses to nothing in the House.
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:47 am to Wednesday
I wish there was video. I’d love to listen to that.
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:49 am to Wednesday
The legislative branch is out of fricking control. Trump lawyers need to sue the leader of the senate and the judiciary needs to put a TRO on this fricking mess.
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:50 am to GumboPot
Agreed
This is an absolutely lawless exercise in tyranny
This is an absolutely lawless exercise in tyranny
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:55 am to Wednesday
quote:
Agreed
This is an absolutely lawless exercise in tyranny
I mean the judiciary may punt but at least try and make them punt. Then entire purpose of the judiciary in our republic is to check the executive and legislative when they are out of control. This is literally 7 grade civics.
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:55 am to Wednesday
It’s genius if they actually got the Dems to call for witnesses. Now Trump’s team can call all of the Dems as witnesses like asking Swalwell about fricking Fang Fang or AOC about her lying that she thought she was getting killed and stretch this thing out for weeks. Waste as much time as possible where the Dems can’t pass any legislation and just try to embarrass everyone.
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:59 am to Drizzt
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Now Trump’s team can call all of the Dems as witnesses like asking Swalwell about fricking Fang Fang or AOC about her lying that she thought she was getting killed and stretch this thing out for weeks. Waste as much time as possible where the Dems can’t pass any legislation and just try to embarrass everyone.
It's not going to work like that. The Democrats will dictate what witnesses can be called.
This is a Soviet style show trial. Nothing more. And the Democrats are tying to salvage their grade B movie.
Posted on 2/13/21 at 11:13 am to GumboPot
frick it. Call all 74 million Trump voters. Jam the Senate up for the next two years so they can’t pass any legislation.
Posted on 2/13/21 at 2:11 pm to GumboPot
Looks like the Dems got scared about calling all of them at witnesses and folded.
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