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re: Anyone else concerned about Ingram?

Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:04 pm to
Are there pretty good examples of dudes in year 5 who just don't show the ability to be a closer eventually becoming an elite level closer?

Kawhi would be one I can think of, but his career is quite the outlier.

So yea, that's a bit of a concern. Even if he's not a closer, that doesn't mean he's not worth a max though, but it does obviously mean that we need a closer.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:34 pm to
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Are there pretty good examples of dudes in year 5 who just don't show the ability to be a closer eventually becoming an elite level closer?



Last year he averaged 46% from the field and 40% from three in the fourth quarter and scored more than guys like Anthony Davis, Luka Doncic, and Jaysom Tatum in that period.

He and Zion both fell from top 20 in scoring in the fourth quarter to outside the top 40.

That to me does not indicate a person problem, it indicates to me a personnel and system issue.

And it’s also worth pointing out the trends seem to be shifting a bit, Ingram isn’t scoring a lot more, but his fourth quarter efficiency has climbed up to nearly 50 percent from the field and 40 percent from three in the last 10 games.

But my hunch is just like with Zion, this is predominately a product of an incomplete system, a lack of continuity, and the amount of energy that is being exerted by our top two guys because of the roster and incomplete scheme that is making our top guys work a lot harder, and it progressively burns them out as the game goes on. And the numbers also bear this out. BI is a top ten scorer in the first quarter(and first half) but his scoring progressively drops every quarter. My guess is if BI didn’t have to work as hard to generate offense, like Gentry sold out the rest of the team to chase last year, we would see BI’s fourth quarter numbers look a lot better.

And I suspect once we get some more complimentary personnel, for instance like a true half court facilitating capable guard that can break down a defense and reliably hit a three, and more spacing, Ingram’s clutch stats will increase dramatically as well, because all his fundamentals and skillsets are sound, he just lacks the right situation to thrive IMO.

This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 1:36 pm
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