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re: :: Discussion from tonight’s TEXIT Town Hall - my notes ::
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:49 pm to McCaigBro69
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:49 pm to McCaigBro69
This Texan is speaking out for Texit.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:53 pm to Ridgewalker
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Most of the lower Midwest would sign up to go with Texas.
Indiana?
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:54 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Is the main issue they are having right now the drilling ban on federal property
That’s certainly a cataclysmic concern, but it’s just one of many reasons.
In summary, TEXIT is about:
- Controlling our own destiny
- Determining our own laws (I.e., getting out from under 2.5 million unelected bureaucrats in Washington)
- Stopping the bloodshed that is $103-$160 billion dollars per year being siphoned from the pockets of Texas taxpayers
The variables and issues are seemingly endless. I’m happy to try to answer/point you in the direction of specifics. In a nutshell, folks are wholly dissatisfied with just about every aspect of our relationship with the US federal government.
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If so, how does Texit address that?
Not sure I follow. Texas businesses would drill Texas land and contract with other countries, same as US operates now. The difference: No prohibitive, devastating national laws. Businesses do much better with less overbearing regulatory restraints that come primarily from our membership in the union. It is reasonable to believe that this spirit of entrepreneurialism will continue and thrive in an independent Texas.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:59 pm to Oates Mustache
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What's the timeline after that?
The TX Lege meets for 140 days. The bill will be filed by Rep. Biedermann. From there, it gets its first reading on the floor and is assigned to a committee. The committee chair schedules it for a hearing; sometimes they don’t if they are opposed to the bill, and it dies when the session ends.
But, if the committee hears the bill and it is voted out of committee, it gets scheduled to be heard on the floor, or it doesn’t. The House and Senate each have their own rules for scheduling bills for the floor and, as has been the case in the Texas House, the chair of the Calendars Committee can use his or her power to kill a bill by refusing to move it along.
However, if it moves along, it gets debated on the floor and is then voted on. If it passes in one chamber, it moves to the other chamber and the process repeats until the bill is passed by both houses. At the end of the day, what any bill needs to pass is the support of 76 members of the Texas House, 16 members of the Texas Senate, the lieutenant governor, and the governor. From there it moves to the governor’s desk for his signature or a veto. While this may seem overly complicated, I assure you that it is actually more so. Yet every session the Texas Legislature manages to pass well over one thousand bills into law.
Summary:
Step 1: Pass though the House
Call your reps.
Call the speaker, Dade Phelan.
Call Lieutenant Governor, Dan Patrick.
Step 2: Pass through Senate
Call your senators.
Step 3: Gov Abbott signs
The governor is up for re-election and is going to start acting conservative. What is he going to say about Texas independence? He wants to run for President of the US. Don’t forget that.
Step 4: People vote in November
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:00 pm to Redleg Guy
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Would it be a simple majority or would it require a threshold (ie 60%)?
Popular vote
50% + 1
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:01 pm to EKG
I'm a Louisiana boy living in Texas now for 11 yrs and I'll vote yes. Just be prepared to shed some blood and dispense lead because they won't let us leave without a fight.
My questions still revolve around the military and what happens to all of that within TX borders.
My questions still revolve around the military and what happens to all of that within TX borders.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:01 pm to Redleg Guy
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Would transplants be able to vote or only native Texans?
I find this really interesting.
Like any statewide election, you’ll have to be a registered voter in Texas to vote.
Pack your bags and call a moving company.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:02 pm to EKG
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The governor is up for re-election and is going to start acting conservative. What is he going to say about Texas independence? He wants to run for President of the US. Don’t forget that.
I'm confused. How does Abbot wanting to be President of the US help Texas leave the US? Kind of hard to be president of the US when the US is suddenly a foreign country.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:04 pm to EKG
Ok.. im new to this.. and that is a crap ton of text..
Soooo.. Texas wants to leave the United States of America?
And then what?
Soooo.. Texas wants to leave the United States of America?
And then what?
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:04 pm to RunningWithScissors
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You guys keep firing this talk up when dems are in the WH but you'd have a better chance of getting an amicable split if someone like Trump was in charge.
We’ve been hard at work on this for over 15 years.
It’s taken time to pull together the pieces.
It’s unfortunate that the timing is what it is; it isn’t about Trump.
I’ve been a member of the TNM for over 5 years.
This would’ve come to a head during this state lege session, regardless of which administration was in the WH.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:07 pm to McCaigBro69
I am right there with you, moved here in 2000 from Louisiana and never looked back
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:08 pm to EKG
I admire the heck out of y’all and wish you the best. What a message it would send to the trash who are selling this country out.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:08 pm to EKG
What would citizenship even look like? You know if it happened eventually you’d get some blue moving in and screwing things up. Is there a plan to keep things moving straight?
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:09 pm to RunningWithScissors
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I'm confused. How does Abbot wanting to be President of the US help Texas leave the US?
It doesn’t. Again, my notes are less than stellar.
He was pointing out that Abbott has eyes for the WH.
Unless Texans make it clear beyond all doubt to him that they will only accept him signing off on secession, it doesn't behoove him to be in our corner on this.
In other words, he needs to hear from the people of Texas.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:11 pm to vilma4prez
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Ok.. im new to this.. and that is a crap ton of text..
Soooo.. Texas wants to leave the United States of America?
And then what?
A vote by the people of Texas.
Passage of TEXIT legislation.
A Texas-sized celebration.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:12 pm to EKG
Is the room for bipartisanship? This just feels like a far-right movement. I see a lot of talk about putting God in schools and stolen elections and kneeling and killing babies. That’s a turnoff for seemingly what, 47% of Texans who voted blue in 2020.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:12 pm to HeadSlash
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Louisiana needs to get on this bandwagon
did you see the part where it says the people will vote????? Louisiana has far to many freeloaders for a vote to ever pass.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:19 pm to Ridgewalker
Oklahoma would go with Texas, if Texas would have it.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:22 pm to Celery
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Is the room for bipartisanship?
Absolutely, though admittedly a larger percentage of the movement is conservative than liberal.
That’s simply a factor of more conservatives than liberals wanting freedom from a large, central government.
But a straw poll a few years back showed that 30% of Texas Democrats favored secession.
Time will tell where they stand on the issue now.
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