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re: What is your definition of socialism? And why or why not is it an effective system?
Posted on 1/16/21 at 7:24 pm to Strannix
Posted on 1/16/21 at 7:24 pm to Strannix
I’ll ignore the retard part. But historically we can look at examples for either system that had both outcomes. USSR industrialized into a nation that rivaled the US in terms of technology in large part due to socialism. Socialism also in large part resulted in the failed state that in Venezuela. The US is the most powerful nation in human history thanks to capitalism. But capitalism failed horrendously in the British India were famines was rampant. I’d think we’d have to look at the underlying issues in a country that would cause either system to fail first like corruption.
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Posted on 1/16/21 at 7:27 pm to PacMan01
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But historically we can look at examples for either system that had both outcomes.
History is crystal clear. Nowhere on Earth in all of human history have more poor people been elevated to a higher relative standard of living than under competitive capitalism with free markets.
Russia industrialized, after murdering millions, stealing technology, etc. Same with the Chicoms.
They didn't invent this shite on their own. And to the extent they ever did invent something it wasn't because the Communist Commissar willed it into being. Someone, somewhere, had benefit to gain personally by doing so.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 7:31 pm to PacMan01
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USSR industrialized into a nation that rivaled the US in terms of technology in large part due to socialism
They only copied what they stole and were still light years behind the USA, it was a crumbling paper tiger from the 70's on, you can't be this stupid?
Posted on 1/16/21 at 7:34 pm to PacMan01
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USSR industrialized into a nation that rivaled the US in terms of technology in large part due to socialism
Yea that was great, except for the whole holodomor thing.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 7:34 pm to PacMan01
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USSR industrialized into a nation that rivaled the US in terms of technology in large part due to socialism.
Know how I can tell you don't know shite about the Soviets? Their technology was rockets and a few military areas. Their airports were the first signs of their lack of technology. They were using analog switches well into late 80s. I had several friends of the family visit the Soviet Union in 70s and 80s and they would laugh about it and question how was the Soviet Union a world power. Well outside of military and nukes, it was a 3rd world nation.
This post was edited on 1/16/21 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 1/16/21 at 7:40 pm to PacMan01
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USSR industrialized into a nation that rivaled the US in terms of technology in large part due to socialism
There was a interesting second order effect that may have been a cause of this that I noticed working in the former Soviet Union. Many anti-communists in the late 1980s and early 1990s were Physicists and other scientists and engineers. And they all had the same story, they would have done something else with their lives, but it was the only area of society not permeated with communist ideology.
Ironically I think we are seeing this in American Academia as well. Our best and brightest are avoiding disciplines permeated by the left and moving into pure science and engineering.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:40 pm to PacMan01
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USSR industrialized into a nation that rivaled the US in terms of technology in large part due to socialism.
Not true. The USSR was a complete fraud. Once the USSR fell we saw just how bad off that country was. Their outward projection was all propaganda. The reality was it was a shitehole.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:41 pm to PacMan01
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USSR industrialized into a nation that rivaled the US in terms of technology in large part due to socialism.
Read a book, kid
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:46 pm to PacMan01
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USSR industrialized into a nation that rivaled the US in terms of technology in large part due to socialism.
Are we talking about the same USSR who’s diplomats they sent to the US thought we staged grocery stores with full shelves for his visit.
And the same USSR that when they visited London they demanded to “see the man in charge of bread distribution” because it was so efficient. I would have loved to have been the one to tell that dumbass that it was just supply and demand.
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