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re: The Last Kingdom is a great series

Posted on 12/27/20 at 6:38 pm to
Posted by red_giraffe
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Posted on 12/27/20 at 6:38 pm to
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For me, when they introduced Ivar the Boneless as a belly crawling psychopath without actual bones in his legs, Vikings went to crap. That time period isn’t well documented, but what little is known, Ivar was a major war leader that eventually dies in Ireland.

While there is no way to know the actual history of that era, I much prefer Bernard Cornwell’s version in his Saxon Tales novels about Utred. At least he admits where he takes liberties to fit his story. Plus, Ivar and Ubba are real badass Vikings in his books.



Remember that Vikings also takes into account parts of the Volsunga Saga and the Saga of Ragnar Lothbrok. It takes it and kind of mixes it with history. Lots of liberties are taken, though. Rollo wasn't Ragnar's brother, and didn't found Normandy until like WAY later. The biggest liberties I think they take is with the timeline. But it's a good starting off point if you want to read about the history.

I love both shows. I especially love how Vikings attempts to use some of the Old languages in the dialogue. My biggest issue with both shows is the fricking costumes. Hollywood is obsessed with dressing historical figures in this BDSM leather crap. All the vikings (in both shows look ridiculous), as well as the Anglo-Saxons. The reason this pisses me off so much is that it's super easy to get the wardrobe historically accurate and you don't have to sacrifice the story or anything for it.
Posted by Broken Coyote
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Posted on 12/27/20 at 7:00 pm to
And both shows are time compressed. I have no problem with that. Ragnor might have been a real person lost to history to become myth. And the myth was the amalgamation of several Men from the Viking age. I suspect the sons of Ragnor claimed or were given that title as a claim to fame the way Ragnor claims to be the son of Oden in the series.

I love both Saxon and Viking history. I just hate what the series did to Ivar the Boneless.
ETA: I have the Volsunga saga, saga of Ragnor Lothbrok and the Saxon chronicles and a couple others on my kindle. They are laborious reading, especially the Saxon Chronicles, so I haven’t read them completely through. Usually just read areas to follow the two series.
This post was edited on 12/27/20 at 7:07 pm
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