This is what I think we're getting a lot of. Demps had no margin for error so we had to nitpick every last aspect of every deal. I don't think there's ever been a team as well set up for long term success as the Pels. Griff has a rock solid foundation to build on, it's not a house of cards like Demps built.

If you look at it from a big picture perspective the Pels turned Jrue/Favors into comparable players in Bledsoe/Adams while adding multiple 1sts and swaps. I don't want Griff to be wasteful with the war chest, but if the Zion era fails, it won't be because we chose Steven Adams over Baynes, Hill and a late 1st.

I also think a lot of the people arguing for quantity now would be viewing this trade completely differently if it was Myles Turner coming back instead of Steven Adams. I get why they value a Stretch 5 more, I just think they are too myopic in their quest for the perfect front court and really undervalue a more traditional center like Adams in the process.

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Posted by Bronc

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Posted on 11/21/20 at 1:35 pm to TigerinATL

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also think a lot of the people arguing for quantity now would be viewing this trade completely differently if it was Myles Turner coming back instead of Steven Adams. I get why they value a Stretch 5 more, I just think they are too myopic in their quest for the perfect front court and really undervalue a more traditional center like Adams in the process.

You told me last year about my correct Christian Wood assessment basically the same thing. Trust Girff, buy in fully or get out were your paraphrased words.

So no offense, but since you led with an insult, maybe some of you lecturing about the Pels big men choices should humble yourselves a bit before throwing aspersions around.

Of course I would be more ok with a first and George Hill for a cost controlled, 10 million dollar cheaper, younger, stretch five that can protect the rim at an elite level and is still years from his peak and slots perfectly in our time schedule around Zion/Ingram. I’m not sure how that is even a question. Adams is a fine center, but I don’t think he is the answer, and will ultimately be somewhere else, or in a smaller role thats easily filled by vets when we are at our peak, so it’s not a move I would make.

Had my intuition been followed that people like you railed against me for last season, this off-season would be about giving Wood 14 million for three years or trading a first rounder and a valuable trade asset for an expiring 27 million dollar center that we may not be able to retain that is not a natural fit offensively with our team or on our likely time schedule.

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Posted by Townedrunkard

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Posted on 11/21/20 at 2:11 pm to TigerinATL

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This is what I think we're getting a lot of. Demps had no margin for error so we had to nitpick every last aspect of every deal. I don't think there's ever been a team as well set up for long term success as the Pels. Griff has a rock solid foundation to build on, it's not a house of cards like Demps built.

I agree with this. Think a lot of people still have ptsd from Demps and his Willy nilly giving away of firsts including me. I like Adams and he may be a decent fit on this team. I just don’t like giving decent assets away for someone that may or not be in our future plan with his salary at a position that is severely devalued now after one year.

Like I said Drummond who is better than Adams could only fetch a 2nd and they will both be fa’s next year. When u consider what we gave up, it’s a bad trade even if we could ‘afford’ the costs

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