re: You guys give O all the blame but none of the credit

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O has had a tending upwards since he took over. Last year was just when everything came together, he doesn’t deserve a lifetime pass, but he deserves some leniency for this year, we literally have an entire different team. And we showed improvement last week.

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His first two seasons were really no better than Miles' final seasons. Miles won 8 (reg season) games in 2014. Would have been 9 wins in 2015 but for the McNeese game being canceled. Miles pissed away what should have been a win vs. Bama in 2014. Then the series really started to get away from LSU (in terms of competitiveness) in 2015. O won 9 regular season games in both 17 and 18. He was no closer to beating Alabama in those years than Miles was in his final years.

The Brady hire (which brought with it a complete philosophy change on offense) changed everything and the stars aligned for 2019. Contrary to your OP, Orgeron received a TON of credit even though, realistically, the biggest impact was Brady.

Most LSU fan knew and accepted that a lot would be lost from that 2019 team. Both players and coaches. But O had earned the benefit of the doubt that he could hire a new set of great coordinators which is 100% necessary to any success O has as a HC. Yet, at a time when the "demand" to work at LSU may have never been higher...O hired two washed up guys with little to no market at all. More than that, he paid his DC almost the same amount as the prior DC despite the new DC having nothing close to the market demand for the old DC. 4 games in that decision is looking disasterous

I would imagine even the most optimistic LSU fan did not EXPECT national championship contender this year. But I don't think any fans were hoping that the program would go back to what it was under Miles (and to some extent Saban) whereby LSU was always good, with an occasional great year. The hope was that 2019 was the start of LSU being a perennial championship contender. Four games in to 2020 LSU has been shredded (on defense) twice by two teams even a lesser (relative to 2019) LSU team should beat.

If you told fans before the year that LSU would go 8-2, 7-3, with losses to some in the group of: Auburn, Alabama, Florida, A&M, no one would have been "happy", but they would have accepted it. But losing to fairly weak Miss. St and Mizzou teams isn't something fans were ok to accept. THAT'S why O is getting the heat...deservedly so.

That said, he still has a chance to turn it ALL around starting this weekend. Outside of Arkansas and Ole Miss, there are no more teams on the schedule LSU "should" beat. If he can find a way to run through the rest of the season with 5 more wins...then much of the start will be fogotten.