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re: Cop begs for help, those filming he beating laughs “He said, ‘help me, y’all!’

Posted on 10/20/20 at 5:08 pm to
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21887 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 5:08 pm to
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there was dissent on this case meaning, there is a difference of opinion on the final ruling.


So what? There was dissent in Roe v Wade. It's still the law of the land.

And that's not the only case; this has been ruled on repeatedly. Police have no legal obligation to protect you unless you're in their custody. Now most of them will, I hope, but you have no legal recourse if they don't.

https://mises.org/power-market/police-have-no-duty-protect-you-federal-court-affirms-yet-again
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 6:02 pm to
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So what?
well it matters because it shows that the majority ruling isn't necessarily correct, just ad populum which is how the court works in a utilitarian sense. moreover, i explained how the majority opinion wasn't commenting on any general obligation for leo. just restraining orders and the property argument

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Police have no legal obligation to protect you unless you're in their custody
again, this is not exactly true, as i explained at length

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POLICE HAVE NO DUTY TO PROTECT YOU, FEDERAL COURT AFFIRMS YET AGAIN
this is yet another poorly worded headline because it is making a generalization from a specific action. it is true that leo does not have to "protect" you in a case such as a shooting. but that does not obviate the obligation of leo to enforce laws. a law was being broken in that instance. police were obligated to respond, which they did (how effective they were is a different matter). but in responding to a law being broken, police do not have to prioritize your personal protection specifically.

again, if leo were not obligated to enforce laws, they would have ubiquitous qualified immunity, which they do not. they can be sued.

think about what you're saying. if leo wasn't obligated, no cop would ever go into any dangerous situation. in fact, they wouldn't have to respond to anything. how long do you think the public would accept that?

a law implies enforcement. otherwise, it's not a law. it's a suggestion
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