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re: Gal Gadot cast as Cleopatra, and people aren't happy about it
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:30 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:30 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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She spoke Egyptian is the only argument that she was part black...but that's taking the giant leap that Egyptians were black Africans of which most trustworthy and long-standing throughout history scholars...say no.
No one made note that the Egyptians were black though. They did with the Ethiopians, which makes me think the Egyptians were not. I think they were decently tan and probably didn’t look all that dissimilar from the Greeks or at most Persians.
I mean, shite, just from the story of Moses, if the Jews looked all that dissimilar from the Egyptians, then surely some fuss would have been made about that. Granted that’s the Black Hebrew Israelites argument, and that’s simply antisemitic.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 9:40 pm
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:52 pm to OMLandshark
This is what people don’t understand about ancient and tons of medieval warfare: the side that lost was largely genocided and/or enslaved. Even the French living today are largely not descended from the Gauls living there 2500 years ago. Sure some of the DNA survives over slave DNA, but it is the minority and it ethnically greatly changes the country where their forebearers lived. There’s probably as much Gaulic and Celtic DNA in Italy now as there is in France and Germany despite the fact that neither are from there. It’s because they were genocided/enslaved by these civilizations. You go back 3000 years and I think the average person would be astounded on how the random person looked. Even in the Middle East, think of how many people are descended from Genghis Khan and his army. It’s almost everyone. These woke Leftists clearly don’t understand this.
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:57 pm to OMLandshark
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No one made note that the Egyptians were black though. They did with the Ethiopians, which makes me think the Egyptians were not. I think they were decently tan and probably didn’t look all that dissimilar from the Greeks or at most Persians.
Well the argument is that the ancients didn't see race like modern civilization does.
But there is historical records of historians and philosophers of antiquity definitely describing color and physical features when discussing people from different lands.
And like I said, there is evidence that the Egyptians did not want Ethiopians crossing over their border which points they saw themselves different than what we consider black-African...sub-saharan and not Northern Africa.
They say Cleopatra caused a raucous when she came to Rome but it makes no mention of her skin color.
Anyone can make an argument that she was a mix. But from her paternal ancestry there's no evidence and no likelihood that she was a black-African as is now often depicted.
So like I said, if people want her portrayed by a person "of color" - I don't see a problem with it but at best it would be some light mix.
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