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re: Some France Air Force hotshot is about to be assigned to galley duty
Posted on 9/30/20 at 12:45 pm to Nobelium
Posted on 9/30/20 at 12:45 pm to Nobelium
[quote]No one blames France for losing, they blame them for quitting when foreign soldiers were converging on their own capital.[/quote
20 years previous they lost two or more generations of men to the meat grinder. before that they conquered everyone they fricked with until waterloo. before that they helped us gain independence.
any fight would have been a total slaughter, even if they had a shot at a stalemate(they didnt), another generation or more of men would be totally lost to war. it's an understandable thing to decide not to do that, and they DID fight at first, but once they were overrun, it wasn't worth the blood it would take to STILL LOSE but ...prouder?
"foreign" takes on different connotations in "notUSA" since the borders of Europe have shifted so much throughout history. the 30,000 foot view of the 2nd world War includes the first, and everything that led up to it.
not just 'merica coming in to kick the wermacht in the teeth after it was shot in the leg.
20 years previous they lost two or more generations of men to the meat grinder. before that they conquered everyone they fricked with until waterloo. before that they helped us gain independence.
any fight would have been a total slaughter, even if they had a shot at a stalemate(they didnt), another generation or more of men would be totally lost to war. it's an understandable thing to decide not to do that, and they DID fight at first, but once they were overrun, it wasn't worth the blood it would take to STILL LOSE but ...prouder?
"foreign" takes on different connotations in "notUSA" since the borders of Europe have shifted so much throughout history. the 30,000 foot view of the 2nd world War includes the first, and everything that led up to it.
not just 'merica coming in to kick the wermacht in the teeth after it was shot in the leg.
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Posted on 9/30/20 at 2:28 pm to TheFlyingTiger
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This post was edited on 4/16/21 at 10:17 am
Posted on 9/30/20 at 6:36 pm to TheFlyingTiger
This is a tangent, but the defense of Saumur is one or my favorite stories from the war.
The cadets from the nearby cavalry school held back and defeated a superior German force. And they chose to fight, inspite or Pétain’s order to cease resistance.
From Wikipedia
The cadets from the nearby cavalry school held back and defeated a superior German force. And they chose to fight, inspite or Pétain’s order to cease resistance.
From Wikipedia
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Why the battle took place is a bit of a mystery. The students provided the moral backbone to the defence; their decision to fight was probably because they would not accept the dishonour of simply retreating. The students were backed by other units and there were many instances of outstanding personal bravery, even though they knew it was only hours before the war would end and they were heavily outnumbered and outgunned. Many Wehrmacht officers commented on the bravery of the French students.
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